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Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 

Problem having multiple accounts with real details is inevitably one will get suspended and they will all go down. It works for now but not a long term stealth solution.

Funny thing is I used the same ID for en Et/sy acct and it seems to have worked fine. Although it has only been a week, not sure how long it takes before Et/sy runs its checks

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maybe/maybe not.. using banned historical info now which works may mean ebay are not using MP as possible links for banned or linked accounts, if they keep the financial arm separate you might be able to make numerous stealth ebay accounts but use real info for the MP keeping them all separate.. its just a thought

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I agree.

But when you check the personal info section eBay have updated the stealth info with real details provided at the MP portal.

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so when you submitted real info for MP they then changed your stealth details on ebay or you changed these to match your real details before registering for MP as surely this would flag up? unless its an automatic change by the system

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It's either an auto change, but then that's even more of a reason to be banned immediately as it would flag up right away OR it's a manual change by an employee in which case they have let me stay on the platform. But either way, no more stealth info on the account other than the sections where it says "items dispatched from address, return address etc" the actual account OWNER details have been updated to my real info BY ebay after putting it into the MP portal.

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I wonder if it’s possible to change details in my eBay back to stealth without triggering new ID requirements. I doubt it but just a thought

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What would be the point of that though ? you would have exposed yourself revealing your true identity during the adyen MP conversion process.

So even if you switch the details back, that info is logged on file forever.

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I think the theory would be so that the real details can be used again and again with other accounts. Maybe that would work a few times but I cannot see it being a long term soluction.

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If it works there would be less chance that if one account goes down, they all go down through being linked by the same details. All theoretical as your real details might still be on the account history, but just a thought

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So what's working at the moment? change Ebay account details to legit banned information and register for MP? my changeover date is January so I'm trying to figure out the best way to do this.

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Yes because we are yet to hear of anyone in the UK passing all the checks with doctored docs. Stealthing on MP appears to be very difficult.

Providing your real info is the only way. And as it stands ebay are allowing previously suspended users back on ... possibly based on the performance of the account in question being converted from stealth to real.

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Many of us passed verification with stealth docs.

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Correct

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Yea one of my accounts is completely Stealth the only thing is real is the bank account sort code and account number lol

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Recently? I had one full stealth pass in June, but in October and November two have failed, using good docs. I am interested to see if full stealth was viable in the first few months but since then they may have increased their checks.

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Yea I think they have stepped up there Checks now it will be harder to get a sheath account passed now

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Not certain but I believe the issue may begin at the name on the bank account - with the new checking regime in the UK banking system unless the name passes muster to that account it will not work. I do not think mis-matched names are going to work going forward

But I am happy to be corrected

:ranger:

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Ok so from what I understand you guys think a solid "creative" documentation can still pass the checks as long as you are usuing the same name as on the bank account ?

This is the first i'm hearing of people passing the checks.

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I don’t think it’s the bank accounts. I am using a business account that does not offer the name checking service. For my one account that passed I am regularly receiving payments. For the other two that failed the direct debit is showing on my account, meaning it was accepted by the Bank.

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Mis-matched names work fo me on my bank account so it's not bank accounts that failed MP it will be the ID checks

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Would you be willing to share which bank you used? How do you know they do not offer the name checking service?

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Quick search of tinternet will tell you. If your bank doesn’t offer it or if it’s a mismatch, they will ask you to send them a bank statement instead.
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/new...-of-payee/amp/

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in terms of this though on a business account isn't your real name detailed on the application so although its a business named account that would still pass the verification rather than a personal account with different names,

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https://ibb.co/ZxkWQDD
https://ibb.co/93vRYBc

2 snapshots above is what one of my friends sent to me today. He pretended he knows very little about MP on one of his accounts and CS gave him interesting answer. Is anything changing with MP being mandaroty?

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Ebay need a means of taking payment of an industrial scale so unless they are reversing the decision with paypal (which they aren't) then this will become mandatory

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We are definitely all going to be forced to use MP whether it's today, tomorrow or by the end of 2021 (which is what they are projecting). Either way it's being rolled out in stages.

Enjoy Paypal while you have it. There was a time everybody hated Paypal. I remember back in the days people crying over PP freezing funds etc but now everyone wishes they could still use them !

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This is pretty much true. Today all my business accounts have been given a deadline to register now which is the 18/01/2021. Prior to this is was just an encouragement to register.

James how are your managed payment stores going at the moment? I believe you said that 2 of them share the same names/details right.

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2 of them share the same real previously banned details and have had multiple payouts now on a weekly basis.

Touchwood they stay running great indefinitely.

My concern now is ebay will turn of the tap once MP is fully rolled out and they start addressing other things like checking the addresses of the "owners" of these MP enrolled accounts and find that many of them were previously banned years ago ...

Hopefully that won't happen. And even if it does they will let good performing sellers stay on. But it's a possibility and a worry.

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I think the concern should be more with the links James, if you were to lose one account would the other soon follow

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I might be feasible to use a real name (and ID) and a stealth address (and proof of address) which may pose less risk of getting linked. I don’t have any accounts switching to MP in the near future but worth a try for anyone that has. I think the checks are being run on the photo ID rather than the proof of address. There is not really a way to check the latter.

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For anyone running a LTD company through eBay, when uploading your business bank statement are you also changing the business name on your eBay account to match the bank statement or just the personal name, or both?

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Thisisatestmessage

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I had the same thought as you on this, verification may well just be the name and the bank so then names need to match but the address can be different,

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I'm biting the bullet and converting a stealth account to a real account.

This is a sole trader business account. I can see that I can change the name and address for the account owner in the Business Information section but I'm concerned about the DoB. I don't see an option to change that. The DoB I enter in the MP portal is going to be a real one and completely different to whatever was used to create this stealth account. Has anyone had an issue with that or does it not matter?

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Just put in your real information. They are going to run the details through an agency to check whether it's true.

If it's real, you win. Back to selling within hours.

If not, you have to send in docs. This is where you can potentially lose the account ...

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Ufcourse ... stealth for me is over. It was a means to get back to selling several years ago.

But I don't care about the link. I just want to be able to sell. The inventory I sell haven't given ebay, or my customers any problems ever so I don't intend on making any new accounts just running the virtual "shops" I already have. So they can be linked. It's all good.

I think a lot of people are in that position BUT will end up losing their accounts providing creative docs and made up info in the MP portal. My advice is don't do it. Just give real info. Ebay need us, now more than ever. This migration to MP and Covid is definitely effecting business.

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Its real information so should be fine with the agency check.

I already have another real account signed up to MP using this same person as the business owner (also sole trader). Not sure if this will cause anything to flag up.

James I remember you say you have two accounts now in the same name. Did you convert both of these from stealth? and is the business owner info exactly the same on each and no issues so far?

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So just to clarify things, when you put in your real info you put in your real name, address, contact number etc and bank account details or doesn't it matter about the address and contact number providing the address and contact number actually exist?

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**Also would luv to know do we enter all our own details at mp signup or update ebay account prior? :) Thankyou - super nervous about this...

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Can the UK's escrow payments be successful