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Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 

Until a week or two ago they were advertised on that thread

Amazon does take more time to make correctly it can still be done it’s just more time-consuming and not an efficient use of time for me personally, hence stopping them

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Enlighten me

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You cant 'opt out' of Managed Payments, but it will take a while, till around 2023 to impliment in all ebay countries, but I ams ure they will have a method for handling this.

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All UK sellers of these accounts decided to remove theur piece of that pie? Seems odd to me.

However, as I said, not really Amazon focussed at the moment, but I would definitely like to hear of anyone managing Amazon Ghost with COP in place. That would be some really good info for MP.

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£100p/h for tutoring if required. PM if needed.

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:ban?: :rip:

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The sign of a defeat.

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The sign that you have broken the rules here Pal.

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I am glad you are now able to read tc's. (thats what one calls a setup)

The Ayden ones and PP ones are really useful at times like this, worth going over them, then you'll be able to contribute more constructively to MP rather than continuing to spoil a thread with angry rhetoric.

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Dude, you are a joke. You've been here 5 minutes and you're the expert on everything. You've attitude sucks! I've been here over ten years learning and helping people.

As an expert on everything you should know you can't offer services for sale in this way.

Pathetic

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I've been doing this for around the same time as you.

I've claimed no expert knowledge, what I have is offered information based on the information that has been given by the various companies in their documenation, which will in turn add more information to the 'pot' when deciding how we all proceed when the time comes.

It's best to be prepared as much as one can be.

It does show a very big weakness in a character when one turns to angry abusive statements when they are unable to form their own critical debate.

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You have a condescending, know it all attitude. You talk down to people on threads. I doubt you would do that in person. You have also broken forum rules.

Everything you have stated is pure speculation. Until we go through the MP process nobody knows. Just because something is in Paypals T&C's means nothing.

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You seem to be continually misunderstanding the posts which is I feel why you feel others are condescending. What you feel about my attitude is personal, and of no relevance really to the thread.

You have also misunderstood your tutoring offer also, even after it was explained to you, but the reliance on it to form your argumental basis, is, well, enlightening. It may also be worth noting on an equivalently oetty level, you have also broke the rules under number 8 of the AUP, however, I am not whining about it.

So, to reiterate, at no point has anything been said as fact, its merely a gathering of information,and individual opinions , at this stage. We all have our researched and non researched opinions about this MP process and we throw them in the pool of information, as each snippet might have something valuable in there to which we can hopefully use to notate a way forward.

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I have not misunderstood anything. I have asked for evidence in what others have said will work with MP. Nobody has been able to do that, because nobody knows yet. Pure speculation.

What is a fact is that you offered tutoring for a price. That is against forum rules.

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Nothing new added to your argument, circular and repetitive, all points covered my my last post.

'You seem to be continually misunderstanding the posts which is I feel why you feel others are condescending. What you feel about my attitude is personal, and of no relevance really to the thread.

You have also misunderstood your tutoring offer also, even after it was explained to you, but the reliance on it to form your argumental basis, is, well, enlightening. It may also be worth noting on an equivalently oetty level, you have also broke the rules under number 8 of the AUP, however, I am not whining about it.

So, to reiterate, at no point has anything been said as fact, its merely a gathering of information,and individual opinions , at this stage. We all have our researched and non researched opinions about this MP process and we throw them in the pool of information, as each snippet might have something valuable in there to which we can hopefully use to notate a way forward. '

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Bored of this conversation now......

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You're welcome.

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Back to business lads. Also i have been looking both into adyen and pay pal. Adyen only has 1000 employees and pay pal has near 30,000! So, with all of that info going through, they will surely not focus on every spec of detail submitted so we all have a chancen since theyll probably rush things. And because they want it in the UK by July, they will be sure to hurry the process, thus inevitably speeding the review process. Just food for thought as many of us MAY easily pass.

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I dont think Ayden does the data checks, its eBay employees that use the Ayden terminal (software), the terminal runs its script etc, then generates a response back to the eBay rep.

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Oh fffggss aha. Thats a downer, but then again i can see ebay passing people who have simply matched their personal banned details to adyen. Who knows...

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Hi just read through this thread, is there anyone who has managed to sign up using stealth. Also will we have to register by July 2020 or 2023

My own business account got banned 5 years ago, even tried calling them recently to see if they could remove he suspension but they were not having it

My stealth account is a genuine account but in a siblings name but my bank account. Now if I change my the name on this account to my own name or business name they will this create a link ?
I recently changed the address without a issue

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No one knows as yet if that link will be made. This has been covered in this section of the forum a fair few times.

If its a sibling, then you share a surname? just change the first name to your initial and I reckon you'd be sound on that.

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If you are asking if anyone has managed to sign up - then i think you haven't actually read through the thread.

Anyway, back to your questions, no one know for sure when we will have to get registered by. Ebay's plan is to eventually replace paypal altogether with adyen by 2023, but most sellers to be using managed payment by 2021, when exactly will ebay force every sellers to get registered on it, we will just have to wait and see..

This has already been covered by the stealth guide! Changing the name to your own name will indeed create a link, and would be a stupid move to do now when no one knows for sure what is actually happening with ebay managed payment at this point.

Chill out, business as usual and not worry about it until it comes, if it turns out stealth will no longer work, then what more can you do, but why stress yourself now when this is still in such early stage!

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Thanks for the advise. Will keep an eye out on this thread
The Email I said said late July the managed payment will start late July

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Will create a link but that’s not enough t
For eBay to shut you down. They need more links such as same address. Same number. Same ip over long period of time etc

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I recently changed the address and first intial and they didn’t say anything but when I change to my own name this name will be the same which was banned. And they also say they ask for dob too
My account is a business account btw so was the one which got closed

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I just filled in the managed payments registration on a business account.

The accounts registration details still has my accountants info (the location my business was registered). But the info I submitted on the managed payments form of the director / significant shareholder (myself) has my actual address which was previously suspended on ebay years ago.

I am hoping the link won't be strong enough for a suspension and I will be good to go, fully enrolled and back to selling in July when MP comes in to force.

Wish me luck!

In regards to private accounts, when they are finally enrolled we have the option of selecting "sole trader" which appears to not ask for much info unlike the limited company route. Probably explains why on Etsy they never done a doc check on me and everything is smooth sailing over there as it's not a LTD company account but private/sole trader.

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I wish you all the best, buddy. I also have a stealth business account and really dreading it but I guess I will have to fill out the MP form at some point.

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Exactly

Got no choice. Just thought if they ban me, they will do it today, tomorrow or a year from now IF the link is there, which there will be.

OR they will see that I have been nothing but a great seller and made them a lot of money and keep me on the platform.

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I may have missed something but we don't have to provide proof of address so why give them your real address? When I do finally sign up I'm planning on fudging the address and using passport as ID as that won't have my address on.

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Never thought of that, good point. I always use different names for my stealth accounts, I will try doing that

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Is ebay UK MP easier than US?

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No one knows yet.

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They didn't ask for proof of address or photo ID. BUT they asked for a bank statement for the business bank account I am assigning to the ebay account for managed payments. (you are allowed to show a screenshot of online banking / black out your balance etc for privacy)

The bank statement shows my previously banned home address. And I also had a section to fill in that said to give the name and address of the director / majority shareholder of the ltd company (me).

So it's a link and it's not a link.

It's a link because they will now see my suspended address ... question is will they as in, ebays trust & safety see it or is it going straight to Aydens staff who as far as they are concerned, I am a new customer.

And it's not a link because it's NOT the address I used to sign up to ebay with. The address on ebay is my accountants add. The previously banned address is only being revealed to them now because I am being forced to sign up to managed payments and reveal the identity of the majority shareholder / director.

So in theory the immediate way around it that I can see is sign up with a family member.

OR use your real name but an address you can access. And when it comes to showing evidence of your bank account don't show the full statement just a screenshot of online banking.

Again this is all an experiment. If it passes, great. If not I will find another way.

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And just to add ... this is ONLY for business accounts that are LTD companies.

NOT sole trader.

The Managed payments process for Sole Trader / Private accounts will be different. Probably easier to stealth.

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Just checked my credit score, looks like Adyen put my information through Trulioo Identity Verification as it's come up as a 'soft' search.

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eBay and PayPal used to also do that and still do

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I guess using you passport instead of DL will do the job as soo as you change DOB maybe. Then be creative with you proof of address and you're ready to go.

The problem may come when ebay starts managing the payments and matching you bank acc with your address. Not sure if they will do that though 🤔

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I've just registered one of my big accounts for Managed Payments as a sole trader.

I got a message saying business info and identify info is being verified and I will receive a message once this is done.

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Genuine details or Stealth ones?