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Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 

As long as I can get my existing accounts working indefinitely it's all good. I have no intention of creating new stealth accounts.

As selfish as that sounds ...

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Are the screenshots above for businesses or sole traders? I am a sole trader and dont have a company number etc

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Based on what I just read on that screenshot it looks like stealth is extremely doable, though it's going to be so much more hassle now. Let's see if we can continue to skirt this, which, based on what I've seen, is doable as well.

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What is missing from that, is that ID will also be required, which is in the second email eBay sent out, it would always be required in the EU after a certain financial point.

Then, when you check Aydens verification process and the service they use to do it, you begin to realise Stealth probably won't be.

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Very true, the ID part will be a little hard to pass, but once we change our names on ebay to match our ID, we should stand a good chance of passing i hope:)

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Yes it will be fine I would imagine...but no longer Stealth.

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So you say they are checking if the name and last name is real? How they do that?

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They are checking your ebay name matches your bank account name. Obviously the name on your bank account is your real name therefore your ebay name will need to be your real name.

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They are checking that the person exists..you will send your passport in or your driving licence, and the codes on it will be checked against a database on a service that provides this...

Combined with the bank account check, and then the new requirement for matching names, thats a pretty fullproof system.

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Are you 100% sure about that or you are just speculating? Not trying to be rude, btw. Just asking

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Theres no assurances in this, however, read the information on Ayden, their terms and conditions, and in fact PayPal, in their terms and conditions, its all stated pretty much. PayPal even list the company they use for this service.

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 

What makes you think this?

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Regarding the database they check, can they see your real address? Because my real address will not match my ebay one (original address is banned).

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See above.

Have you done any research at all?

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Not if you use a Passport as your ID document as there is no address on a PP. I think, if you are to use your Driving Licence, you may need the address to match. Thats just educated speculation though.

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That should be fine, i thought companies like Adyen could check a certain code on your passport to see your place of residence lol. Just my paranoia

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You can't change a stealth eb account name, it doesn't let you.

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 

Drop the attitude, nowhere does it say this.

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I have managed to change a few names on my stealth's so its definitely possible.

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So you say PayPal is also checking if the user really exists?

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 

Evidently, you havent read PayPals user agreement for example. Go back and try again.

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It's possible on business accounts,

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PayPal saying something and PayPal doing something

They are very very different thing

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Definitely.

Hoping Adyen are the same. At first any way with the influx / workload they will have when everyone is submitting what they need too.

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 

Another keyboard warrior. Nobody knows what will happen. Just because it's there doesn't mean they enforce it.

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Pretty much :)

Its why a lot of the senior members are not really chipping in - until its fully rolled out its all just lots of guesses.

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This is what I keep saying, nobody knows, but a few members are sure they know, but can't back it up.

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I can think of a few keyboard warriors in the last 24 hours, these jack a$$es are everywhere. Not directed at your of course pathos :-) This is from a separate convo altogether.

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While this is true, and it requires a full on manual review with PayPal to use said verification systems, hence when it does happen, accounts go down, but not every account gets that level of personal treatment.

However, is that the same with Amazon, who use similar processing as Ayden? Because I've not noticed any Amazon Ghost accounts being up for sale in the past couple of years.

I lean on the side of caution.

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How pleasant.

You asked 'what made me think that', and I referred to documentation available to all on PP's user agreement and Aydens.

This is what makes me 'think' this, at this stage. And based on my experience with Amazon, I have a belief it will be a lot more integral to account approval with MP.

However, in saying that, with the sheer velocity of people sending in these documents, some of the early birds may get through with hooky details.

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Yep they are for sale as well and have been for the past few years

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Could you link me to Amazon UK Ghost accounts?

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I have gone through verification for over 10 Amazon stealth accounts over the past few years. None have failed. There has also been sellers selling UK Stealth Amazon accounts until recently. I guess if you had researched this you would know.....

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Hows that been working out lately with COP?

'Recently' is subjective..

Amazon is not really my focal point. My research time is spent with user agreements and verification checking systems, hence why I have formed some basic opinions based on this info. Obviously not 'real wor;d' yet, but its best to be prepared, as I dont wish for my long term accounts to go down when MP gets turned on as I wasnt prepared.

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I couldnt see any UK accounts on that listing.

I remember you used to sell them , as did most UK sellers, what was the reason you all stopped?

I havent had any major issues with Amazon myself other than afew hurdles but I havent tried lately with COP etc.

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As I said, never had an account fail verification. Had accounts over 8 years.

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Yes you did say that, but didnt answer my question.

You do know what COP is right? It only began a month ago.

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Do we need to register Adyen to opt out to managed payments? Adyen has no support in many countries.