| | | brassmonkey | 06-03-2020 03:26 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by Pathos
(Post 1097635)
Genuine details or Stealth ones? | Real name, ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address. Uploaded banking portal screenshot which doesn't show address. |
| Pathos | 06-04-2020 01:26 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by brassmonkey
(Post 1097643)
Real name, ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address. Uploaded banking portal screenshot which doesn't show address. | That will be fine then , they are real details, we already know this bit :) . Whats the concern/relevance?
When asked for ID send your passport over DL, so no address. |
| james_112233 | 06-04-2020 02:48 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by brassmonkey
(Post 1097643)
Real name, ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address. Uploaded banking portal screenshot which doesn't show address. | Exactly what I intend to do if my first account fails after submitting real address.
Still waiting to see whether I am allowed to sell once they notice the banned address when putting me on to managed payments. It's been a week or so since I submitted my real address and real bank statement.
People that are thinking why I would do that ...
Well i've been using ebay for over a year now with many links across all of my accounts i.e. old paypals, same IP logins etc and they haven't suspended me yet.
I got a feeling as long as there are not too many links at one time and your account is in good standing they let you off the hook. We shall see. |
| brassmonkey | 06-04-2020 04:08 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 1097711)
Exactly what I intend to do if my first account fails after submitting real address.
Still waiting to see whether I am allowed to sell once they notice the banned address when putting me on to managed payments. It's been a week or so since I submitted my real address and real bank statement.
People that are thinking why I would do that ...
Well i've been using ebay for over a year now with many links across all of my accounts i.e. old paypals, same IP logins etc and they haven't suspended me yet.
I got a feeling as long as there are not too many links at one time and your account is in good standing they let you off the hook. We shall see. | Yes it will be interesting to see if we get verified - the section where I had to enter my address had a note stating the address was used to verify identify. If this is the case then a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address won't work but we shall see.
I think they might keep us in limbo until end of July before they tell us if we have passed verification.
Then of course at a later date when they ask us to submit photo ID we may get banned as the the ID will be of a previously banned person. |
| Pathos | 06-04-2020 08:47 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by brassmonkey
(Post 1097716)
Yes it will be interesting to see if we get verified - the section where I had to enter my address had a note stating the address was used to verify identify. If this is the case then a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address won't work but we shall see.
I think they might keep us in limbo until end of July before they tell us if we have passed verification.
Then of course at a later date when they ask us to submit photo ID we may get banned as the the ID will be of a previously banned person. | They use a soft credit check, if the name/address/bank all match, then ID probably wont be required. If they don't match, Id will be be required.
I just had the 'Please make sure you register by July 15. Your account will be enabled starting from late July.' come through on all my accounts, similar email to what the Americans have been getting for a while.
That definitely proves the 15th is D-Day in the UK to, as before now, all their emails to me never mentioned the 15th July. |
| james_112233 | 06-04-2020 09:01 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? It will be great if others chip in with their findings as well, at least in July/August when we are all transferred over on our business accounts, especially the account sellers here.
Fingers crossed for everyone to make it through. Nothing worse than starting from the bottom again. |
| arshavin | 06-04-2020 09:17 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? I'm still hoping we can just ignore today's MP email and get a few more months out of this.
My fear has always been I'll end up having to start on the taxis.
That fear is burning hard right now. |
| Pathos | 06-04-2020 10:01 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 1097788)
It will be great if others chip in with their findings as well, at least in July/August when we are all transferred over on our business accounts, especially the account sellers here.
Fingers crossed for everyone to make it through. Nothing worse than starting from the bottom again. | You wont find account sellers offering info for obvious reasons, but I'd hope to see more everyday posters putting in some info to the discussion, especially when we start to trial it.
For comedy value, I asked eBay CS if this will be a mandatory thing, they said no. Lol. |
| Pathos | 06-04-2020 10:02 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by arshavin
(Post 1097790)
I'm still hoping we can just ignore today's MP email and get a few more months out of this.
My fear has always been I'll end up having to start on the taxis.
That fear is burning hard right now. | Until that email I was hoping a few more months to..but now with that eBay, it has been somewhat, deeply, concerned and stressed thats for sure. Its like a looming redudancy. |
| arshavin | 06-04-2020 11:13 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? I know we can't say for certain right now how we should go about this but I am just thinking....
If we have multiple stealths that we care about and are selling legit items with good customer service, do we just pick the one we like the most and register that for MP and cross our fingers.
And then just forget about the other stealths.
This is how i am seeing it.
I really hope we can keep multiple stealths alive, but i'm struggling to see how its possible? |
| james_112233 | 06-04-2020 11:47 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by arshavin
(Post 1097813)
I know we can't say for certain right now how we should go about this but I am just thinking....
If we have multiple stealths that we care about and are selling legit items with good customer service, do we just pick the one we like the most and register that for MP and cross our fingers.
And then just forget about the other stealths.
This is how i am seeing it.
I really hope we can keep multiple stealths alive, but i'm struggling to see how its possible? | Yes, if the only possible way is to get one single account on to MP then your hero account needs to be the one that gets trialed.
That's what I have done.
The others aren't that far off to build up back to the level of my hero account but if I am only going to be allowed one account with my real details then i've already submitted the forms on that account and i'm just waiting to see whether in July they activate MP on it and let me carry on selling.
Everyone will be experimenting in different ways no doubt. |
| Pathos | 06-04-2020 12:18 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 1097820)
Yes, if the only possible way is to get one single account on to MP then your hero account needs to be the one that gets trialed.
That's what I have done.
The others aren't that far off to build up back to the level of my hero account but if I am only going to be allowed one account with my real details then i've already submitted the forms on that account and i'm just waiting to see whether in July they activate MP on it and let me carry on selling.
Everyone will be experimenting in different ways no doubt. | Lol, I like that, hero account.
I have two hero accounts, and two that essentially buy my stock. I think I may have to lose one account and I can possible salvage three out of the four with 'real' details from friends.
However juggling all the money to buy the stock and pay for Royal Mails click and drop is going to be a real ballache. Right now, PayPal is used to buy stock and pay Royal Mail. |
| Pathos | 06-04-2020 12:26 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by arshavin
(Post 1097813)
I really hope we can keep multiple stealths alive, but i'm struggling to see how its possible? | eBay does allow multiple accounts with the same details, so it may be a possibility, or do what I am doing and loaning friends and their savings accounts with a little percentage of profit to them each month. |
| james_112233 | 06-04-2020 04:55 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by Pathos
(Post 1097830)
eBay does allow multiple accounts with the same details, so it may be a possibility, or do what I am doing and loaning friends and their savings accounts with a little percentage of profit to them each month. | Absolutely forgot about that. All the accounts may be transferred to MP after all then. I don't care about links to be honest, I have no intention of running separate stealth accounts anymore. I only ever needed a stealth account to get back to selling in the first place. I don't sell vero so don't burn through accounts. |
| arshavin | 06-04-2020 06:22 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? 2 of my stealths have a very close match to my real name but not an exact match.
For example
Real name - Phil Smith
Stealth name - philly smiths
I could possibly change the names to my real name and hope I never get asked for Id. |
| glacier922 | 06-04-2020 06:38 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Why don't some of you who got the email immediately list an adult sex toy or something just to see if mp goes away ? |
| arshavin | 06-04-2020 07:28 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by glacier922
(Post 1097885)
Why don't some of you who got the email immediately list an adult sex toy or something just to see if mp goes away ? | Haha. Why would it go away? |
| glacier922 | 06-04-2020 07:44 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Because it's a forbidden item if you want to be qualified for mp supposedly |
| arshavin | 06-05-2020 12:59 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by glacier922
(Post 1097893)
Because it's a forbidden item if you want to be qualified for mp supposedly | Any links to where you have seen that? |
| glacier922 | 06-05-2020 01:39 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? |
| jamsandwich | 06-06-2020 05:34 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Apologies if I have missed something in this thread, but how is signing up to eBay managed payments any more of a hurdle than opening a stealth Paypal account and getting verified using 'creative' documents? Is it the unknown eBay/Adyen checks that people are concerned about? |
| Pathos | 06-07-2020 02:45 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by jamsandwich
(Post 1098212)
Apologies if I have missed something in this thread, but how is signing up to eBay managed payments any more of a hurdle than opening a stealth Paypal account and getting verified using 'creative' documents? Is it the unknown eBay/Adyen checks that people are concerned about? | It may not be, but no one has tried it yet (or no one has reported trying it yet) |
| jamsandwich | 06-07-2020 02:58 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by Pathos
(Post 1098240)
It may not be, but no one has tried it yet (or no one has reported trying it yet) | I see, thanks. Well I suspect someone will find out (and hopefully report it here) sooner rather than later. |
| brassmonkey | 06-07-2020 02:59 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by Pathos
(Post 1098240)
It may not be, but no one has tried it yet (or no one has reported trying it yet) | The only difference to normal stealth is that the documents would all need to be in your real name, everything else on them can be changed.
But like you say we don’t know how Adyen/ Ebay is running the identify checks yet. |
| james_112233 | 06-07-2020 07:18 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by jamsandwich
(Post 1098212)
Apologies if I have missed something in this thread, but how is signing up to eBay managed payments any more of a hurdle than opening a stealth Paypal account and getting verified using 'creative' documents? Is it the unknown eBay/Adyen checks that people are concerned about? | That's it really.
Nobody knows if they are like Paypal or not.
And other than having to use your real name due to your bank account being linked everything else can be different in which case we can still stealth.
But we have to wait and see. I personally think ebay have shot themselves in the foot if Adyen run stringent checks.
So many legitimate stealth retailers on ebay in every category. Every shop loves spreading sales across multiple accounts. It allows sellers to get a good nights sleep as well to be honest. If one account goes down you know your business can still function while you get that account back up and running. |
| arshavin | 06-07-2020 08:03 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Maybe this is wishful thinking, but what if this is just to stop people dodging fees.
This way they have a handle on the money ins an outs more with payments being sent every 2 days.
And they will still allow us to sorta stealth, just not hardcore dodging fees stealth. |
| Pathos | 06-07-2020 11:52 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by jamsandwich
(Post 1098243)
I see, thanks. Well I suspect someone will find out (and hopefully report it here) sooner rather than later. | Have you tried it? |
| Pathos | 06-07-2020 11:52 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by arshavin
(Post 1098269)
Maybe this is wishful thinking, but what if this is just to stop people dodging fees.
This way they have a handle on the money ins an outs more with payments being sent every 2 days.
And they will still allow us to sorta stealth, just not hardcore dodging fees stealth. | It will have a small element to the entire marketing plan and design of MP yes, but its a bitpart. |
| jamsandwich | 06-07-2020 11:57 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 1098262)
That's it really.
Nobody knows if they are like Paypal or not.
And other than having to use your real name due to your bank account being linked everything else can be different in which case we can still stealth.
But we have to wait and see. I personally think ebay have shot themselves in the foot if Adyen run stringent checks.
So many legitimate stealth retailers on ebay in every category. Every shop loves spreading sales across multiple accounts. It allows sellers to get a good nights sleep as well to be honest. If one account goes down you know your business can still function while you get that account back up and running. | Hmm, I am using 'creative' documents and ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name on my stealth PP accounts, and have my own name on the bank and VCC I have linked to the PP account without any issues. |
| jamsandwich | 06-07-2020 11:58 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by Pathos
(Post 1098306)
Have you tried it? | I've not, no. |
| Pathos | 06-07-2020 01:24 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by jamsandwich
(Post 1098311)
I've not, no. | Try it then? |
| paul0428 | 06-08-2020 06:21 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? For the Uk every one that is not a big seler it will steel use paypal for years to come it will not be this or next year 100% USA is difrent but in the UK no one send any informations to IRS tax or something like that so UK seller are safe for now. |
| Freakzilla | 06-08-2020 06:30 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Please enlighten us on your source for this information. Quote:
Originally Posted by paul0428
(Post 1098585)
For the Uk every one that is not a big seler it will steel use paypal for years to come it will not be this or next year 100% USA is difrent but in the UK no one send any informations to IRS tax or something like that so UK seller are safe for now. | |
| arshavin | 06-09-2020 07:56 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by paul0428
(Post 1098585)
For the Uk every one that is not a big seler it will steel use paypal for years to come it will not be this or next year 100% USA is difrent but in the UK no one send any informations to IRS tax or something like that so UK seller are safe for now. | I don't mean to be rude but I think you are just making stuff up here. |
| paul0428 | 06-09-2020 08:21 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? No you are not let said for the last 5 yers i have more then 500 ebay and paypall account not all are my account when they are register in the Uk i never ever have a problem no Irs no tax problem on each account when they get big daylly sells more then 1000 paund each day some account hold fer up to 2 years so see how much moeny go tru each of them when i open in Gurmanny for esample in usa it is difrent UK was the best place to open ebay and paypal even the paypall is instant wildraw but after septemver 1 2019 Ebay change some thing in theare software i cant tell what it is more hard to get a new stelt account it is just need more time for exsamply if you need to open 20 today before you can do it one by one now if you wonna be safe i mean really safe just do it every 2-3 hours betwin them and you are fine.Everything that i said is 100% true i dont ask moeny from no one si before you critisaid some one just try to do it it is easy to do that then spend a few years to faind how ebay and paypal work. |
| paul0428 | 06-09-2020 08:25 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? And sorry for my english it is not purfect i stell lurning. |
| Bigblackdog | 06-09-2020 08:28 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by paul0428
(Post 1098585)
For the Uk every one that is not a big seler it will steel use paypal for years to come it will not be this or next year 100% USA is difrent but in the UK no one send any informations to IRS tax or something like that so UK seller are safe for now. | Oh please - it's happening. Accept it and be ready for it because it wont go away and imagining it will isn;t going to change anything |
| paul0428 | 06-09-2020 08:31 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Yes you are right but it will not happen in uk account for the next 2 years only for the big store will happen soon and there is a way to do it even with the new sestem it is not so hard trust me. |
| arshavin | 06-09-2020 09:01 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by paul0428
(Post 1098695)
Yes you are right but it will not happen in uk account for the next 2 years only for the big store will happen soon and there is a way to do it even with the new sestem it is not so hard trust me. | Where is the proof? | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:34 AM. | |
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