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ebaywanton 11-15-2020 12:33 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Proof of employment? That's odd, what about invoices or supplier docs?

Freakzilla 11-15-2020 12:44 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
How many accounts have you done this with?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99p (Post 1124868)
All accounts working well, no issues ( high turnover accounts)

Only one of the accounts had a soft suspension after selling for 1 month using MP and ebay is requesting payslip or any other proof of the employment.

I have been now appealing this for the last 2-3 weeks , no results yet, just being redirected to different departments (all communication via emails)

No positive results so far. I will reply here the outcome


99p 11-15-2020 03:14 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebaywanton (Post 1124903)
Proof of employment? That's odd, what about invoices or supplier docs?

I agree with You ,it is very odd , they never requested this before. Also account is fully legit was created couple of years before with sales history, top rated and
5k feedback

I had lost many accounts and before suspension they would always request suppliers info+ invoices as a standard. Anyway most suspension would come from paypal , Now ebay is in charge and they will request whatever they like as far as I see.

ebaywanton 11-15-2020 05:09 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Is it for proof of employment that you sell on ebay? Or another job?

Could be game over if they randomly ask for employment slips :(

james_112233 11-16-2020 02:57 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 99p (Post 1124868)
All accounts working well, no issues ( high turnover accounts)

Only one of the accounts had a soft suspension after selling for 1 month using MP and ebay is requesting payslip or any other proof of the employment.

I have been now appealing this for the last 2-3 weeks , no results yet, just being redirected to different departments (all communication via emails)

No positive results so far. I will reply here the outcome

Lol what ? this just sounds made up to me.

Screenshot please.

Why on earth would they ask to see a payslip.

perfumehut 11-16-2020 09:53 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Thanks for all your replies, for example the stealth name on account is John Paul, and my own name is Peter Scott, if i change the name and address (which i used before which got me banned, has anyone tried doing this and been sucessful? as currently i feel that is a better option than trying to get through via stealth details. would love to hear you guys views on that!.

P.s thanks for all the advice you guys give on here, i joined about 4 or 5 months back and its been hugely benefical! so keep up the good work!

james_112233 11-16-2020 12:51 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by perfumehut (Post 1125088)
Thanks for all your replies, for example the stealth name on account is John Paul, and my own name is Peter Scott, if i change the name and address (which i used before which got me banned, has anyone tried doing this and been sucessful? as currently i feel that is a better option than trying to get through via stealth details. would love to hear you guys views on that!.

P.s thanks for all the advice you guys give on here, i joined about 4 or 5 months back and its been hugely benefical! so keep up the good work!

I did this.

But only in the managed payment portal, not on the ebay account itself. That still has stealth details although I have noticed ebay have manually updated it themselves using what I submitted in the managed payments portal.

Looks like to me they are letting banned people from back in the day back on now which is fantastic. Probably based on the accounts performance though and whether if you still pose a risk to them or not. AND the initial reason for your ban ufcourse.

perfumehut 11-16-2020 06:33 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james_112233 (Post 1125119)
I did this.

But only in the managed payment portal, not on the ebay account itself. That still has stealth details although I have noticed ebay have manually updated it themselves using what I submitted in the managed payments portal.

Looks like to me they are letting banned people from back in the day back on now which is fantastic. Probably based on the accounts performance though and whether if you still pose a risk to them or not. AND the initial reason for your ban ufcourse.





Thanks, how long have been live for and had any issue?

IhateEbayalot 11-17-2020 07:45 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james_112233 (Post 1125119)
i did this.

But only in the managed payment portal, not on the ebay account itself. That still has stealth details although i have noticed ebay have manually updated it themselves using what i submitted in the managed payments portal.

Looks like to me they are letting banned people from back in the day back on now which is fantastic. Probably based on the accounts performance though and whether if you still pose a risk to them or not. And the initial reason for your ban ufcourse.


no chance !

frustr8ed 11-17-2020 08:22 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Seems eBay might be back to their old ways. Account in good standing. Submitted docs for MP 2 weeks ago - all seems to have been ok and all of a sudden lastnight got the following.

I see some people in the US have had this, but has anyone in the UK?

As part of eBay’s security measures, we regularly screen activity on our platform for compliance with our policies.

eBay has identified a possible discrepancy with the information provided at the time of registration. Your account registration information (Name and Address) must match your government-issued ID. Accordingly, your account ****** has been suspended without appeal.

James Brown 11-17-2020 08:52 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
You might want to edit or remove your ebay account name from bottom of post...

ross88 11-17-2020 08:55 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frustr8ed (Post 1125318)
Seems eBay might be back to their old ways. Account in good standing. Submitted docs for MP 2 weeks ago - all seems to have been ok and all of a sudden lastnight got the following.

I see some people in the US have had this, but has anyone in the UK?

As part of eBay’s security measures, we regularly screen activity on our platform for compliance with our policies.

eBay has identified a possible discrepancy with the information provided at the time of registration. Your account registration information (Name and Address) must match your government-issued ID. Accordingly, your account the-view-art has been suspended without appeal.

Did you submit real info on a stealth account?

mtrc 11-17-2020 08:58 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james_112233 (Post 1125119)
I did this.

But only in the managed payment portal, not on the ebay account itself. That still has stealth details although I have noticed ebay have manually updated it themselves using what I submitted in the managed payments portal.

Looks like to me they are letting banned people from back in the day back on now which is fantastic. Probably based on the accounts performance though and whether if you still pose a risk to them or not. AND the initial reason for your ban ufcourse.

Did you use business account with LTD company or self employed?

frustr8ed 11-17-2020 10:01 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Stealth name and docs. Have checked over everything and all seems to be ok, but it may be that I missed something - that or they simply didn't like my account. I am just concerned that they are somehow checking DL numbers etc against a database. I followed the same methodology as a prev account which works fine!

james_112233 11-17-2020 11:58 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mtrc (Post 1125331)
Did you use business account with LTD company or self employed?

Yes limited company

99p 11-17-2020 02:08 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebaywanton (Post 1124938)
Is it for proof of employment that you sell on ebay? Or another job?

Could be game over if they randomly ask for employment slips :(

yes, they want proof of the employment ( from employer)

ebaywanton 11-17-2020 02:24 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Could you possibly place a screenshot showing exactly what is says?

james_112233 11-18-2020 03:05 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Not sure if it's been pointed out already but I read this paragraph in the managed payments terms conditions:-

"You authorize us and our Affiliates to check information you provide to us, including by verifying the existence of your bank account and obtaining reports from, or comparing your information to, third-party sources. Such third-party sources may include without limitation, banks, credit agencies, data brokers, and other service providers. We reserve the right to close, suspend, or limit your account or rescind your access to Managed Payments (in which case your account may be reverted to its original state without Managed Payments or, if this reversion is not possible, your ability to sell on eBay may be limited, suspended or terminated) in the event we are unable to obtain or verify any of this information. We are not responsible for any losses suffered by you as a result of incomplete or inaccurate information you provide."

So they do credit checks with third parties. And it's showed up on experian for me.

This is why stealth accounts are not passing the checks.

JamesNorth101 11-18-2020 03:09 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
eBay has always done credit checks - its nothing new. There is a long thread talking about this all in details already (infact it may well be this very thread towards the middle, there are a few with similar titles though)

Its not the credit check that is causing the issues - its what being submitted to eBay that is then checked by Ayden that is the problem 95% of the time

mtrc 11-18-2020 03:38 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james_112233 (Post 1125369)
Yes limited company


Here is the answer why it allowed you to change the details.

If the eBay account is registered as LTD company with its Registration Number then change of the name on eBay account is allowed, because it is "account manager". The owner of the account is the LTD company.

That's the way how I am going to process most of my accounts -> create few LTD companies, link to each ebay account, change the name on ebay into real one.

I don't think so it will be different method of processing this except the Real Data (ID's / DL). It seems they are able to confirm if the document Exists in the Databases.

james_112233 11-18-2020 03:44 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1125647)
eBay has always done credit checks - its nothing new. There is a long thread talking about this all in details already (infact it may well be this very thread towards the middle, there are a few with similar titles though)

Its not the credit check that is causing the issues - its what being submitted to eBay that is then checked by Ayden that is the problem 95% of the time

I wish this was the case I can't see anybody confirming this other than being banned 2 weeks after activation

IhateEbayalot 11-18-2020 05:29 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james_112233 (Post 1125645)
Not sure if it's been pointed out already but I read this paragraph in the managed payments terms conditions:-

"You authorize us and our Affiliates to check information you provide to us, including by verifying the existence of your bank account and obtaining reports from, or comparing your information to, third-party sources. Such third-party sources may include without limitation, banks, credit agencies, data brokers, and other service providers. We reserve the right to close, suspend, or limit your account or rescind your access to Managed Payments (in which case your account may be reverted to its original state without Managed Payments or, if this reversion is not possible, your ability to sell on eBay may be limited, suspended or terminated) in the event we are unable to obtain or verify any of this information. We are not responsible for any losses suffered by you as a result of incomplete or inaccurate information you provide."

So they do credit checks with third parties. And it's showed up on experian for me.

This is why stealth accounts are not passing the checks.

I will be using my real name and DOB but mailbox address will i pass credit check?

Currently all details on my stealth account are ⊗⊗⊗⊗.

defwax7 11-18-2020 08:39 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

I will be using my real name and DOB but mailbox address will i pass credit check?
I think they only accept your full home address on your account.

This cannot be a PO/office/workplace address.

IhateEbayalot 11-19-2020 07:05 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by defwax7 (Post 1125699)
I think they only accept your full home address on your account.

This cannot be a PO/office/workplace address.

They have no way of knowing if its a home address.

Plus its a business so nothing wrong with "Unit 6"

Or "51 Regent street"

Only thing is not my credit history at that address.

Natwest will change your address on statements without any proof of address.

Mailbox no longer have address's which stand out as mailbox address they now have full home like address plus they let you choose address format.

brassmonkey 11-19-2020 02:32 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IhateEbayalot (Post 1125674)
I will be using my real name and DOB but mailbox address will i pass credit check?

Currently all details on my stealth account are ⊗⊗⊗⊗.

I now have two accounts on Managed Payments and I can say with certainty that the address you give them does not matter - the address does not have to exist.

frustr8ed 11-19-2020 06:13 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 1125893)
I now have two accounts on Managed Payments and I can say with certainty that the address you give them does not matter - the address does not have to exist.

Have you had any fail. I have had 2 pass very easily but the third was banned 10 days after submitting docs. I assume you aren’t passing without sending docs

james_112233 11-19-2020 06:40 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frustr8ed (Post 1125922)
Have you had any fail. I have had 2 pass very easily but the third was banned 10 days after submitting docs. I assume you aren’t passing without sending docs

The 2 that you passed what did you do differently to the one that failed ?

I had one business account pass with my real name DOB and address. And real bank statement.

I want to do the next one with my real name and dob but a different address in the hopes they are not linked should it fail.

IhateEbayalot 11-19-2020 11:46 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
A real name with real DOB is unique to you it's a 1 in a million chance it's you.

So if you made 2 accounts with real name and real DOB they are already linked.

IhateEbayalot 11-19-2020 11:49 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 1125893)
I now have two accounts on Managed Payments and I can say with certainty that the address you give them does not matter - the address does not have to exist.

I prefer to use a real address for now so can submit documents if needed.

I received email saying mine will go live 18th Jan so I have not bothered yet.

Have you gone 1 month without getting suspended? I'd say 1 month and you succeeded.

Ill Be Back 11-20-2020 06:59 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james_112233 (Post 1125933)
The 2 that you passed what did you do differently to the one that failed ?

I had one business account pass with my real name DOB and address. And real bank statement.

I want to do the next one with my real name and dob but a different address in the hopes they are not linked should it fail.

With the business account that has passed with your real details, has this been linked and banned in the past or has this always been a clean account?

Ill Be Back 11-20-2020 07:01 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IhateEbayalot (Post 1125975)
A real name with real DOB is unique to you it's a 1 in a million chance it's you.

So if you made 2 accounts with real name and real DOB they are already linked.

What about making an account with a real name but a made up DOB?

brassmonkey 11-20-2020 11:02 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Just to add both my accounts that are on Managed Payments used previously banned details.

james_112233 11-20-2020 11:59 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Looks like a lot of us are back on with banned details. But that's not my issue at all ...

It's getting MULTIPLE accounts running with my banned REAL details.

zamzam 11-20-2020 12:06 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Seems to be OK to use details that have been banned before - not sure how long it will last but its a temp soluction for now

IhateEbayalot 11-20-2020 02:45 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Guys don't sacrifice your current stealth accounts that have been making you an income.

Make 1 or 2 new stealth accounts then push them through MP first...... if succeed use those from now on.

Your current money maker should be protected at all costs.

JamesNorth101 11-20-2020 02:48 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
The problem is some accounts are being forced to join MP and you can’t make an account and push it through MP without getting an invitation

IhateEbayalot 11-20-2020 05:48 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
If you ain't got a invitation then you can continue selling as normal.

I made another stealth with my real name 2 weeks no issues, listings still there but it is personal account I will turn it to business account asap.

Ill Be Back 11-24-2020 11:08 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IhateEbayalot (Post 1126170)
If you ain't got a invitation then you can continue selling as normal.

I made another stealth with my real name 2 weeks no issues, listings still there but it is personal account I will turn it to business account asap.

With this new stealth account using your real name, did you also use your real D.O.B and address? If so was this banned in the past? I am thinking of making a new account using my real identity which was previously banned. It's not stealth but people have said that they have been using banned details with success.

defwax7 11-24-2020 11:39 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Converting banned info on new or existing accounts may work short term, if docs wasn't supplied in the first place. Bot duplicate keywords is another factor, which may link accounts.

IhateEbayalot 11-24-2020 12:08 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ill Be Back (Post 1126933)
With this new stealth account using your real name, did you also use your real D.O.B and address? If so was this banned in the past? I am thinking of making a new account using my real identity which was previously banned. It's not stealth but people have said that they have been using banned details with success.

Only thing real was my name.

I can't remember if eBay even asks for DOB.

The only opportunity we have here is the banned details eBay has stored for everyone is that banned data shared with MP ?

Someone will have to make a few accounts and push them through MP to find out. Make the eBay accounts full ⊗⊗⊗⊗ details then when received MP invite turn everything to real details.


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