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StealthHarry 07-01-2020 08:18 AM

Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID
 
I’ve just purchased accounts

They had addresses already on there

Always worked without a hicup

assad 07-01-2020 08:31 AM

Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StealthHarry (Post 1103264)
I’ve just purchased accounts

They had addresses already on there

Always worked without a hicup

I dont think having a dedicated address for a stealth account is worth it, unless you're taking in loads of returns

Freakzilla 07-01-2020 08:47 AM

Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID
 
How did it go with the stealth accounts you purchased last year?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1103259)
This makes solid sense, it wasn't something that was ever mentioned to me when I first bought accounts here, but if you think about all the 'pluses' of having an accesible address for things like documents, its a great plan.


Pathos 07-01-2020 08:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Freakzilla (Post 1103268)
How did it go with the stealth accounts you purchased last year?

How did what go?

casper555 07-01-2020 09:05 AM

Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID
 
who do Amazon use to process their payments? like Adyen for ebay, who for Amazon?

Freakzilla 07-01-2020 09:09 AM

Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID
 
The accounts you purchased last year. Your opening introduction here stated you was here to buy accounts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1103272)
How did what go?


StealthHarry 07-01-2020 09:24 AM

Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID
 
I don’t know why you do it mate - if I get a return I just let them keep it and refund them but ofc not everyone can do that

Your next best option imo is paying a corner shop or Hermes shop £20 / month to let them use returns - depends who they are be friendly be nice make them the proposition they won’t say no

A few people here do this without any issues




Quote:

Originally Posted by assad (Post 1103267)
I dont think having a dedicated address for a stealth account is worth it, unless you're taking in loads of returns


assad 07-01-2020 09:28 AM

Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StealthHarry (Post 1103283)
I don’t know why you do it mate - if I get a return I just let them keep it and refund them but ofc not everyone can do that

Your next best option imo is paying a corner shop or Hermes shop £20 / month to let them use returns - depends who they are be friendly be nice make them the proposition they won’t say no

A few people here do this without any issues

Got bigger things to worry about they a return address at the moment,

Highly considering ditching eBay full stop and invest into something else, far to much headache.

its always been a big headache but this is like the final straw i think,

This new MP system sounds like a HUGE ball ache.

Pathos 07-01-2020 09:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Freakzilla (Post 1103275)
The accounts you purchased last year. Your opening introduction here stated you was here to buy accounts.

Indeed, so while you can ask sensitive information, that pretty much no one will ever answer, you just end up looking like a bit of tool in doing so. You have to be far more intelligent than that to try and troll someone.

But great contribution to all the MP threads! Your recent posting history must be classed as invaluable to the cause.

Freakzilla 07-01-2020 09:44 AM

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What sensitive information have I asked? You came here to buy accounts.
They would of had stealth information. I'm asking how you've got on with Managed Payments with them. I've already got Stealth accounts confirmed with MP, so not doing to bad for a tool.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1103292)
Indeed, so while you can ask sensitive information, that pretty much no one will ever answer, you just end up looking like a bit of tool in doing so. You have to be far more intelligent than that to try and troll someone.

But great contribution to all the MP threads! Your recent posting history must be classed as invaluable to the cause.


assad 07-01-2020 09:50 AM

Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freakzilla (Post 1103303)
What sensitive information have I asked? You came here to buy accounts.
They would of had stealth information. I'm asking how you've got on with Managed Payments with them. I've already got Stealth accounts confirmed with MP, so not doing to bad for a tool.

Mate the guys just got a attitude that is all it is, think he needs a break from the forum

Pathos 07-01-2020 09:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Freakzilla (Post 1103303)
What sensitive information have I asked? You came here to buy accounts.
They would of had stealth information. I'm asking how you've got on with Managed Payments with them. I've already got Stealth accounts confirmed with MP, so not doing to bad for a tool.

We cant talk about Fight Club.

Pathos 07-01-2020 09:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by assad (Post 1103305)
Mate the guys just got a attitude that is all it is, think he needs a break from the forum

Thats nice after the 12 PMs you send me asking for advice, 11 of which you got nice replies with advice which has progressed your knowledge, but the hand holding was getting to be a bit much...Shall I screengrab the PM's?

StealthHarry 07-02-2020 05:34 PM

Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ngirg001 (Post 1103679)
ScreenGrab them!!!

Does Aspkin USA get this much drama?

I’ve never checked or are all the plonkers on this side

I’m considering getting a draft :D

Steelhead56 07-07-2020 04:36 PM

Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID
 
I just applied for managed payments. I have a sealth account but used my information. I changed my birth date and used my first initial of my name. I have never given E bay my SS# so they cannot trace me with that number. Problem is the account owner does not have the same name as me. We will see.

Steelhead56 07-07-2020 04:55 PM

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Update : Have to used your correct birthdate

james_112233 07-07-2020 04:59 PM

Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by assad (Post 1103262)
Up until now ive always had rented addresses out for my eBay accounts its just far better, great for returns , docs ets the lot but ive always tried setting up legit accounts and registered ltd companies on that address etc

not sure what benefit renting addresses is for a stealth account apart from being able to accept returns there ?


Quote:

Originally Posted by assad (Post 1103285)
Got bigger things to worry about they a return address at the moment,

Highly considering ditching eBay full stop and invest into something else, far to much headache.

its always been a big headache but this is like the final straw i think,

This new MP system sounds like a HUGE ball ache.


Wow, how much were you spending on renting properties for your stealth accounts ?

assad 07-07-2020 05:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by james_112233 (Post 1104599)
Wow, how much were you spending on renting properties for your stealth accounts ?

That is the thing i wasn't running stealth accounts it was legit accounts so my company was registered on this address bank the lot, basically i was operating from this address.

Virtual address that take in parcels etc dont cost too much, i think it was around 40-60 pounds a month.

assad 07-07-2020 05:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by james_112233 (Post 1104599)
Wow, how much were you spending on renting properties for your stealth accounts ?

i personally think its worth it takes out all the headache you have with unknown addresses on your accounts, headache of returns etc.

casper555 07-09-2020 07:04 PM

Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID
 
received a new email from ebay today about managed payments... apparently they moved the restriction deadline from 15 July to 27 July! What is your take on it?
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Remember, your account is scheduled to be enabled in late July - please register by July 15 for eBay to manage your payments. If you miss the registration deadline, starting from 27/07/2020, we will start to restrict your ability to create new listings
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StealthHarry 07-09-2020 07:08 PM

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It’s the same bullsh*t they’ve sent to everyone

Has no meaning

The eBay / PayPal system was so good together

It’s a real shame this happening, I’ve checked eBay community forums & everyone is losing there sh*t there too

I’m just going to boycott it, worst case scenario just earn income elsewhere

casper555 07-10-2020 04:06 AM

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paypal was only good for stealth and micropayments (thats my opinion) under MP ligit businesses with around 100k monthly turnover will be saving £2000 in paypal fee. Plus they will not have to compete with below sellers!!!

People who are complaining about this new system are:
1 who sell lookie-like items
2 who sell digital downloads
3 who burn 1-2 stealth account every month to make quick cash
4 who do not pay taxes
5 who are not registered for VAT
6 who do not want to reveal their id and still sell and earn money... woww
7. people who do not want money to come into their bank account! WHY? rest you know better ;)

Like it or not this is a good step by ebay. If someone is even banned by ebay in past then they can get back on platform with 1 stealth account (by putting their real details on account). A ligit business is not banned in 99% of cases. A ligit business do not need more than 1 and maximum 2 accounts to trade............ Like it or not stealthers need more accounts to f*** the ebay and customers :D

casper555 07-10-2020 04:25 AM

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Ebay has raised category fee but not as much i think. I am not sure about this but i think only half a percent. But paypal commission is around 2.5%. So thats still a saving of 1-2% at least.

james_112233 07-10-2020 05:11 AM

Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID
 
I've read they are offering cash incentives $50 - $300 to sellers across the pond to sign up to MP.

Reeks of desperation.

Also read that those enrolled in to MP will lose out in sales from non-mp ebay sites. I sell a lot to Japan, S.Korea, Thailand & Singapore. So I will lose out big time.

Bigblackdog 07-10-2020 06:23 AM

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I've done the numbers in my own situation and I will be marginally better off

IMO this is more about Ebay finally seperating from Paypal (will take years yet I think) and taking control of the site

I realise fully the angst some are feeling but no one, given the nature of the beast that is Ebay, can be in the least surprised that they would take steps to stop the people mentioned in the comment above

For sure some people will disappear but truly, is that a great loss to Ebay and Ebay buyers?

I think not

:ranger:

james_112233 07-10-2020 12:11 PM

Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1105038)
No you haven’t, you’ve read about fee credits being offered. They’ve offered exclusive listing incentives to MP sellers over here in the U.K. too.

Yeah ... so pretty much the same thing. They are offering people incentives to sign up. Ebays getting desperate or why would they.

paulfoltyn 07-11-2020 10:10 AM

Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID
 
What is the ID process on MP? Is it just sending in an id scan or is it more intrusive? real time video holding ID etc? Most of my accounts are personals but a hand full of business but as of yet no forcing of MP on any - just went through all the emails. All i can find is the beta invites from jan/feb nothing since

brassmonkey 07-11-2020 02:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paulfoltyn (Post 1105249)
What is the ID process on MP? Is it just sending in an id scan or is it more intrusive? real time video holding ID etc? Most of my accounts are personals but a hand full of business but as of yet no forcing of MP on any - just went through all the emails. All i can find is the beta invites from jan/feb nothing since

Scan of your passport or driving license - no real time video

chas2012 07-14-2020 07:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 1105277)
Scan of your passport or driving license - no real time video

would a photo do ok of it do you think?

brassmonkey 07-14-2020 09:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chas2012 (Post 1105695)
would a photo do ok of it do you think?

As long as it is a clear picture then I don't see why not.

casper555 07-14-2020 04:52 PM

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Received this email today, the restriction threat date has been moved to 10 Aug. I hope this will be moved further down the line..
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This is your last reminder to register for managed payments.

Remember, your account is scheduled to be enabled in late July - please register by July 15 for eBay to manage your payments. If you miss the registration deadline, starting from 10/08/2020, we will start to restrict your ability to create new listings.


Quote:

Originally Posted by casper555 (Post 1104981)
received a new email from ebay today about managed payments... apparently they moved the restriction deadline from 15 July to 27 July! What is your take on it?
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Remember, your account is scheduled to be enabled in late July - please register by July 15 for eBay to manage your payments. If you miss the registration deadline, starting from 27/07/2020, we will start to restrict your ability to create new listings
-------------------------


arshavin 07-14-2020 04:55 PM

Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casper555 (Post 1105786)
Received this email today, the restriction threat date has been moved to 10 Aug. I hope this will be moved till December.
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This is your last reminder to register for managed payments.

Remember, your account is scheduled to be enabled in late July - please register by July 15 for eBay to manage your payments. If you miss the registration deadline, starting from 10/08/2020, we will start to restrict your ability to create new listings.

ignore this message

mudrat26 07-14-2020 04:58 PM

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Did this pose any problems changing your DOB

casper555 07-14-2020 05:04 PM

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Its written in the email ( If you miss the registration deadline, starting from 10/08/2020, we will start to restrict your ability to create new listings)

paulfoltyn 07-19-2020 01:20 AM

Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mudrat26 (Post 1105788)
Did this pose any problems changing your DOB

When you sign up to ebay you don't give them DOB? Only paypal asks it?

casper555 07-27-2020 02:41 AM

Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casper555 (Post 1104981)
received a new email from ebay today about managed payments... apparently they moved the restriction deadline from 15 July to 27 July! What is your take on it?
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Remember, your account is scheduled to be enabled in late July - please register by July 15 for eBay to manage your payments. If you miss the registration deadline, starting from 27/07/2020, we will start to restrict your ability to create new listings
-------------------------

27 July has come today but ebay has not put any restriction on putting up new listings... good signs for the time being :)

cleanprophet 07-27-2020 04:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by casper555 (Post 1107753)
27 July has come today but ebay has not put any restriction on putting up new listings... good signs for the time being :)

Yes, nothing has changed so far.

The question is: is this eBay just trying to maximise profits by taking a huge chunk of PayPal's business or is it about making sellers more accountable?

I've been selling on eBay for over 20 years. Everything they have ever done was entirely about making money. They've only bothered with accountability when legally obliged (ie people selling items that are copyright infringes).

Much remains to be seen, but I do suspect that eBay have been trying scare people into signing up to MP. I might be wrong, but I can't see a profit-mad company like eBay restricting selling.


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