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Proof of fact?

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Yep and I would assume EB will use the same system. Just looking forward to knowing that for sure though when its up and running fully.

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I'm seriously considering going kamikaze for the cause with one of my accounts. But feel like I would be an idiot to waste it at this point should it fail.

- Going to turn it from private to business account by asking ebay chat.
- I should then hopefully be asked to enrol to MP with it
- Use real name so it matches my bank account
- Phantom address
- Submit creative docs every step of the way when asked and see what happens

Worst case they tell me to jog on. Best case it works. Then I can also report back on the refund aspect.

Again ... as it stands I feel like I would be wasting the account as it has a lot of feedback on it as private accs are not being asked to enrol yet.

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Its worth a punt, but I did do similar a couple of months back with the same intention, and even though Ive requested MP, and asked them on CHAT and the phone, its still yet to happen. Your mileage may vary though.

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In my opinion, it’ll probably be a pot like PayPal to get refund or option of card possibly bank

But eBay would need to pay a processing fee for refunding the transaction from bank

I don’t think the refund side will be much of issue - well that’s just my opinion will have to wait and see 15th July

If everyday savers will work then it wouldn’t be much of a issue - just the docs then and if they flop the whole account will go down

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I was agreeing with your speculation then lol

It feels sometimes your just after a argument mate

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Didn't you chose to go to the 'legit' conversation route with that, so you don't have 'all' the info, as it seems there are different requests from MP depending depending which way you go.

I agree though, we will see big changes, as we have already, with all E-Commerce and paymnts processing, banks etc...I can see the HMRC also getting involved in the next couple of years with the likes of Amazon and eBay so they can send out letters to all the folk not declaring their earnings.

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I agree. Which is why this new managed payment system will easily integrate in to all the popular accounting packages on the market. They specifically made that point to sellers.

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All true and good, but for me personally it’s long overdue now I need to invest elsewhere - in this volatile day and age you cannot have a single income from eBay alone

Best of luck to all, and it’s truly pandemics like this MP scenario that brings us together and gets the best out of us

Hope this works out for all of us

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I sell very low value items but in bulk. My average selling price is £2.2 and I am making around 20p per order. I am on micropayment plan with paypal. Under MP ebay is not offering alternative of micropayment plan and therefore my payment handling cost per order will rise up by at least 20p per order. Thats end of my business for sure.

Sellers selling items around £50+ are ultimate beneficiary of MP because previously they were paying around 30p plus 2-3% paypal handling charge (depending upon their volume) and now under new MP they are paying just 30p. High volume sellers doing turnover of 200k will be saving 2% as compared to paypal.

MP is a killer for stealthers and people like me selling low value items. And a welcome thing for legal sellers.

I have a question: WILL EBAY CHARGE VAT ON 30P? If they do then its 36p effectively.

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Because of the nature of the forum I suspect that not many will understand the validity of the point you are making here
:ranger:

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ha ha ha... well said

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Precisely why I am sincerely hoping ebay let me stay on using my legit details.

I have never wanted to stealth, just wanted a second chance and because I didn't get it I was forced to stealth. I loved the peace of mind stealth offered but with the uncertaintities ahead transitioning in to MP, I would just like to convert my stealths to my real details and be done with it and have ebay let me stay on.

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I think you'll be ok and they will allow that IMO.

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Just change your stealth details with your real details and you will be 100% OK. Keep running account on same pc and 100% no worries. I have done it few times and never had any issues on any of the account.

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Well at the moment i've been accepted. But I am still worrying about the end of the month when it's actually implemented on the account.

And i'm worried about using the same details on my other stealth accounts ... and whether THAT will be when they all get banned together.

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I have a question: is it possible to change the business details of ebay ID (Name and Address) after successfully enrolling for MP? Will payment keep working smoothly? OR Adyen will check every now and then to match the name on account with documents submitted to them at the time of enrollment?

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We don't know

And that's the problem. Nobody really knows what Adyen will or won't do. It's all a mix of speculation at the moment mixed with the tiny bit of facts we have.

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I would be surprised if they didn’t request documentation for the new details

Could be wrong but it would be odd if they didn’t

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Lol, dude, thats like two hurdles in front of the first one!

I can't imagine them allowing an identity change without questioning it..

but stranger things have happened on early systems. Still a risk though if you've managed to get an MP account approved.

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i see...

I notice that new ebay account still can be registered using paypal and these accounts have not received any 15 July notice/deadline (as they are new) so i think new accounts with paypal mechanism may last until the end of year because MP will be fully rolled out by ebay by the end of 2020 and we may be can get extra 4 months of trading on old pattern to make some more money. Does it make sense?

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Don’t go beating the drums about it...

Imagine if they hit those accounts with the MP notice in July

And force them by September / October

I’d hate to see that happen but just as you have good hopes, be prepared for the worst case scenario now so you can plan through it mate

All the best

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I dont think any of this really matters at all.

If you are starting new accounts, take into consideration under creation elements of the account details that will 'aid' future managed payments, but know that at some point, it will be there.

I imagine you will be able to unload stock by starting new eBays and linking to the still current PayPals etc

Use them till then, then try to convert them.

But its all futile, as most people dealing with this issue have long term succesful stealth accounts (not turn and burn accounts where they would be happy with a few extra months), this is what these threads are currently for.

And others can take the info from them for their quick dollar ones.

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Yes but what about if you've already supplied ⊗⊗⊗⊗ IDs already on the account ?

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Another eye opener for those who dont know (check this link)

Managed payments Document checklist by ebay

https://secureir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v...klist-a4.4.pdf

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What are the chances of changing your account to your real details that have been previously blocked ?

Would it work or just get blocked.

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This will still work.. trust me

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Why not just make a real account?

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Can you please elaborate ? What do you mean real account ?

Can i do it under my own name ? i have previously been banned on eBay

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Misread the post sorry. Thought it said you had not been banned

Not much has changed really though for MP - stealth still seems to work ok. Not sure what all the fuss is about?

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The fuss is that long term accounts, with high turnover, can often be a persons livlihood, so there would be worry, a fuss, attempting a further stealth on said account, thus wanting to obtain as many objective and subjective views as possible.

However, it does indeed look positive at the moment from the (very) few people who have bothered to report back, how have you been doing regarding MP'ing your own accounts? havent heard you comment about it much?

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For real about it's looking positive? I feel like a new man here!

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At the end of the day, you have to choose who you can trust. No one will provide any actual proof to you, so the decision you take is based on gut instinct and understanding of the process and info presented.

I tend to not be trusting people who have financial interests in supporting the 'pro' case, however a few people, who don't seem to have financials involved have mentioned on the various threads they have suceeded going Stealth. Some of them could well be shills,but some may not be. It's all a guessing game dude till you do it yourself :)

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When I first came to this forum many years ago one of the 'givens' was that you should have access to any stealth address you use

Anyone planning on opening new accounts with a view to ultimately getting through MP should, I suggest, take this 'given' into account

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This makes solid sense, it wasn't something that was ever mentioned to me when I first bought accounts here, but if you think about all the 'pluses' of having an accesible address for things like documents, its a great plan.

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Up until now ive always had rented addresses out for my eBay accounts its just far better, great for returns , docs ets the lot but ive always tried setting up legit accounts and registered ltd companies on that address etc

not sure what benefit renting addresses is for a stealth account apart from being able to accept returns there ?