| |  | | | Pathos | 06-20-2020 03:57 AM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 1100976)
Honestly why would they want to when all they will be met with is users like you and Tin (who thinks that Covid is a test for survival of the fittest... says it all really) will just go around saying its vested interests and all just being done for self interests. The sellers here used to help a lot and post a lot more but there is little motivation to when its just met with cynicalism and a know it all attitude.
Instead they (myself included) tend to PM it to users that reach out to them genuinely looking to get information to help them and are not trying time and time again prove some sort of point because they have an axe to grind.
There are a lot of worried people out there and posts telling everyone that everything is doomed when in fact you have no idea what exactly will happen does not help. | Not entirely, the help that was regularly given was just recirculating info to newbies, other than Bust who offered fresh stuff (but I imagine he has been told to keep quiet somewhat as it was affecting account sales maybe?).
But good to hear you operate a secretive approach. Therefore, why worry about the open dialogue?
I've never said everything is doomed, I personally think I will be covered come MP time, there are options, and those options have come to light through open discussion with others on these threads. |
| Pathos | 06-20-2020 03:58 AM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by digzz
(Post 1100977)
If you guys want to get a idea of how "Adyen" works open a Shpock account. They use Adyen. | Are you running Stealth Shpock accounts? I have no idea about this one as I've never used it, so this may not even be a thing! |
Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID [QUOTE=tinsoldier;1100584]I've signed up and been accepted. MP starts for me in 'late July'.
Hello Tinsoldier. I believe everyone that is signing up is being accepted but the important thing is whether eB will approve people in late July after confirming identity.
I signed up this past week and was accepted but eB said that they’re going to review and confirm my identity and business info in late July and then make a decision to approve or not. |
| JamesNorth101 | 06-20-2020 04:04 AM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by Pathos
(Post 1100979)
Its great to see you offer some snippets of information!
So you have seen eBay on credit searches? I havent heard you mention any of these things before on the forum, in open dialogue.
Have you talked about your Stealth accounts getting approval on MP? I cant see any of your posts about it, but happy to be corrected if you can post some. Can you post some screengrabs on that?
I have many accounts within the MP pool for early adopters, as I've mentioned before. | eBay have done credit searches for many many years. This is not something that should be news to you.
I haven't posted about it because until I actually get to use MP on an approved account there isn't anything to say. I only like to start talking when I have something to say. Its a healthy habit and prevents me making grand statements that turn out to be totally incorrect. Quote:
Originally Posted by Pathos
(Post 1100980)
Not entirely, the help that was regularly given was just recirculating info to newbies, other than Bust who offered fresh stuff (but I imagine he has been told to keep quiet somewhat as it was affecting account sales maybe?). | No one tells anywhere here what they can and cannot post. Have a look at the posts you, Agent and Tin have for example. I may well not like the grand statements and some of the outright stupid things said but they are rarely edited and very rarely deleted. Its a very open forum in that regard. I have complaints against me on my sellers thread which again have not been removed. Quote:
Originally Posted by Pathos
(Post 1100980)
But good to hear you operate a secretive approach. Therefore, why worry about the open dialogue? | I'm not sure how else to get this over to you... its not secretive - there is just not that much information out there right now. There is a vested interest application, then a few forms to fill out, an approval email and that is it. What can be posted is very limited and purely a guess right now as to exactly how it will work. Quote:
Originally Posted by Pathos
(Post 1100980)
I've never said everything is doomed, I personally think I will be covered come MP time, there are options, and those options have come to light through open discussion with others on these threads. | I hope so. While I think you are an arse I would never wish someones business to come to a halt.
Will there be issues with MP? Yes there will. There always are when changed like this come in.
Will there be solutions - Absolutely. That is the only thing I am 100% sure about. Until I know exactly what the hurdles will be and what the solutions will be however I wont post conjecture and get people worried by saying it will all come to a shuddering halt. |
| JamesNorth101 | 06-20-2020 04:06 AM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by digzz
(Post 1100977)
If you guys want to get a idea of how "Adyen" works open a Shpock account. They use Adyen. | Etsy also use it which is the best like for like platform to trial things on IMO but nice to know where else uses it :thumb: |
| Pathos | 06-20-2020 04:15 AM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID [quote=nyc;1100983] Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1100584)
I've signed up and been accepted. MP starts for me in 'late July'.
Hello Tinsoldier. I believe everyone that is signing up is being accepted but the important thing is whether eB will approve people in late July after confirming identity.
I signed up this past week and was accepted but eB said that they’re going to review and confirm my identity and business info in late July and then make a decision to approve or not. | Great info, have you got the email or a screenshot from eBay saying that is going to be their process? |
| JamesNorth101 | 06-20-2020 04:21 AM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1100986)
If you'd signed up to managed payments like you claim you'd know for sure!
I do..... :thumb: | Clearly was not directed at yourself was it... Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1100986)
As for your need to mention my comments from another thread about covid -19 to to qualify my capabilities to comment on managed payments, sorry mate, you've lost the plot and as I said, take things far to personally and isn't healthy for someone tasked with moderation. | It speaks to the type of person you are. Simply an observation. You are projecting if you think I take your views personally. They are your views and your entirely entitled to them. Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1100986)
The irony if course is I am better positioned than you to comment and have supplied far more information about it than you and all the other account sellers combined have. | You have certainly talked a lot and some of it has been good. You don't make the same grand statements that Pathos. Its the predictive 100% certainty that something will happen that I take issue with when he actually doesn't know. Not predictions itself. There is a difference. Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1100986)
It also ironic that the most recent thread where I shared my covid thoughts has been conveniently deleted because someone was getting upset..... :pound: | Not something I did. I don't like to moderate personal views regardless of if I agree with them or not. |
| JamesNorth101 | 06-20-2020 04:21 AM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1100989)
Lets not confuse terminology. When you sign up if you fill the form out out correctly you are approved as an applicant and they state they will make verification checks.
I passed those verification checks and have been accepted onto the Managed Payments system and my account has been duly updated. From late July I will receive my disbursements via Managed Payments, not paypal. | The US and the UK process are slightly different. |
Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID [quote=tinsoldier;1100989] Quote:
Originally Posted by nyc
(Post 1100983)
Lets not confuse terminology. When you sign up if you fill the form out out correctly you are approved as an applicant and they state they will make verification checks.
I passed those verification checks and have been accepted onto the Managed Payments system and my account has been duly updated. From late July I will receive my disbursements via Managed Payments, not paypal. | Can you please share images that you were approved and also passed the verification checks. I won’t believe it until there’s proof on your end. |
| digzz | 06-20-2020 04:28 AM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by Pathos
(Post 1100981)
Are you running Stealth Shpock accounts? I have no idea about this one as I've never used it, so this may not even be a thing! | Unfortunately I'm not. As I only found it was using Adyen after I set it up. |
Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 1100984)
I haven't posted about it because until I actually get to use MP on an approved account there isn't anything to say.. | Have you signed up for MP and are now just waiting for approval? |
Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 1100991)
The US and the UK process are slightly different. | Could you please tell me what the UK process is, I’m already familiar with the us process and I’d like to compare and contrast the differences between the two regions process. |
| Pathos | 06-20-2020 04:32 AM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID [quote=tinsoldier;1100989] Quote:
Originally Posted by nyc
(Post 1100983)
Lets not confuse terminology. When you sign up if you fill the form out out correctly you are approved as an applicant and they state they will make verification checks.
I passed those verification checks and have been accepted onto the Managed Payments system and my account has been duly updated. From late July I will receive my disbursements via Managed Payments, not paypal. | Yes exactly. I am confused as to why it's being suggested that MP is not yet functional, unless of course, the person suggesting it hasnt signed up, and thus are annoyed at the information because they don't know it yet.
Did you see a soft credit check perchance? |
| Pathos | 06-20-2020 04:34 AM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 1100990)
They are your views and your entirely entitled to them. | lol, Indeed...thankyou for supporting my own argument. |
Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID [quote=tinsoldier;1101000] Quote:
Originally Posted by nyc
(Post 1100993)
You can believe what you want sweetheart. I couldn't care less. | Don’t patronize me, I’m not your friend.
Unless you have emails from eB or screenshots from the eB site showing your verification passed then all your claims regarding MP are useless and helpless to others.
Show us the facts. |
Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID [quote=tinsoldier;1101005] Quote:
Originally Posted by nyc
(Post 1101004)
You call me patronising after saying you wont believe me and suggest my commentary has been useless unless I provide proof.
Grow up and sort yourself out, that what I've done. There is absolutely no chance of me posting screenshots are ebay updates for someone like you. :thumb: | That’s because you’re a liar and have no idea what you’re talking about. Get a life and stop misleading people. |
Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID [quote=tinsoldier;1101009] Quote:
Originally Posted by nyc
(Post 1101006)
Of course I am.
What time is it there, you should be fast asleep, you sound tired and grumpy.
You wouldn't have any other ID's for this forum would you? :pound: | It’s bright and early here and I feel amazing. I just can’t stand people like you who talk out of their A$$. |
| JamesNorth101 | 06-20-2020 10:44 AM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by Pathos
(Post 1101001)
lol, Indeed...thankyou for supporting my own argument. | The problem here Pathos is that your confusing your views with facts.
By all means share your views. No issue with that. Your views however are not facts. You, and the rest of the world, don’t know what will and won’t happen until users in the UK start to get to use MP so please stop telling everyone that you know for a fact this or that will happen.
Sharing your opinion = totally fine
Thinking that just because you think something makes it a fact = not ok |
| Pathos | 06-20-2020 11:58 AM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 1101086)
The problem here Pathos is that your confusing your views with facts.
By all means share your views. No issue with that. Your views however are not facts. You, and the rest of the world, don’t know what will and won’t happen until users in the UK start to get to use MP so please stop telling everyone that you know for a fact this or that will happen.
Sharing your opinion = totally fine
Thinking that just because you think something makes it a fact = not ok | Cyclic debate.
Why not just cut and paste, and then move on to happier things. |
| JamesNorth101 | 06-20-2020 05:53 PM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by matalino
(Post 1101129)
Why is this thread going like a debate/fighting? | Not sure really. It should be a lot more constructive. Parts of it are
I am just asking Pathos to saying things are a fact when there is no evidence to back the statements up. Getting through MP will be hard and will take adjustments but it will be possible and scaremongering really doesn't help when people are already worried.
Until we start to be able to actually use MP here in the UK (not just the application stage) on eBay then its very hard to know exactly what will and will not be possible. There are a few key aspects that right now eBay hasn't released details on (such a refunds, when it will be fully required for all UK based sellers etc).
Most of that should be answered in the next 4 weeks though and when there are actual answers that can be put into practise and tested it should go a long way to help members understand exactly what will be happening going forward. |
| Pathos | 06-21-2020 03:09 AM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 1101142)
Not sure really. It should be a lot more constructive. Parts of it are
I am just asking Pathos to saying things are a fact when there is no evidence to back the statements up. Getting through MP will be hard and will take adjustments but it will be possible and scaremongering really doesn't help when people are already worried.
Until we start to be able to actually use MP here in the UK (not just the application stage) on eBay then its very hard to know exactly what will and will not be possible. There are a few key aspects that right now eBay hasn't released details on (such a refunds, when it will be fully required for all UK based sellers etc).
Most of that should be answered in the next 4 weeks though and when there are actual answers that can be put into practise and tested it should go a long way to help members understand exactly what will be happening going forward. | I will be looking forward to you posting the results of your testing for everyone to suceed at navigating Managed Payments.
Screenshots please. |
| Bradd | 06-23-2020 01:40 PM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Hey guys come on were all in the same boat .Where here to put our heads together and help each other out .Not see how far we can peiss in the snow :) |
| Bradd | 06-24-2020 06:55 AM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1101711)
Agreed. Any info is good info. What is your experience and findings to date? | As soon as i get any news il post it on here |
| Pathos | 06-24-2020 07:10 AM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by Bradd
(Post 1101732)
As soon as i get any news il post it on here | Have you done anything regarding MP on your accounts? |
| User220 | 06-25-2020 05:38 PM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Does anyone know if the managed payments registration required proof of id aswell as bank statement and eBay name to match
Thanks |
| waqas734 | 06-25-2020 09:34 PM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID I have applied with my ltd company today and uploaded my buisness bank account which matches my name amd didferent address and just put different dob as my real name dob was banned before , 30min later i got an email “ we couldnt verify you please upload your ID” i dont know what to do now should i put my real dob and take a chance as i am the only director of the company and have registered company and different address to the one which was banned before , my concerned is if i put the same name which i already have along with the same dob which i did not before would i be linked than , really worried now as there is red warning everytime i login to upload the id , just confuse if i should get creative with dob or just go and upload the my real id |
| james_112233 | 06-26-2020 12:21 PM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by waqas734
(Post 1102084)
I have applied with my ltd company today and uploaded my buisness bank account which matches my name amd didferent address and just put different dob as my real name dob was banned before , 30min later i got an email “ we couldnt verify you please upload your ID” i dont know what to do now should i put my real dob and take a chance as i am the only director of the company and have registered company and different address to the one which was banned before , my concerned is if i put the same name which i already have along with the same dob which i did not before would i be linked than , really worried now as there is red warning everytime i login to upload the id , just confuse if i should get creative with dob or just go and upload the my real id | Waqas give your real name and DOB, no point playing games with ebay now.
I am also banned on ebay (about 4 years ago now). But I transitioned my stealth account to managed payments using my real details. They do a soft 'credit' check which showed up on experian.
That's why they didn't request photo ID from me and all seems OK so far, apparenty I am ready for MP at the end of July.
And they haven't banned me either ... yet. Hopefully they won't as they can see I have been performing fine for nearly 2 years. |
| Pathos | 06-26-2020 12:29 PM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 1102203)
Waqas give your real name and DOB, no point playing games with ebay now.
I am also banned on ebay (about 4 years ago now). But I transitioned my stealth account to managed payments using my real details. They do a soft 'credit' check which showed up on experian.
That's why they didn't request photo ID from me and all seems OK so far, apparenty I am ready for MP at the end of July.
And they haven't banned me either ... yet. Hopefully they won't as they can see I have been performing fine for nearly 2 years. | It's what I am planning to do as well.
Did you use a hooky adress and just genuine name and DOB? |
| james_112233 | 06-26-2020 12:51 PM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by Pathos
(Post 1102205)
It's what I am planning to do as well.
Did you use a hooky adress and just genuine name and DOB? | Well the reason I joined this forum is because I was banned from ebay not paypal.
So the address provided to ebay after transitioning my account is now my REAL address, the address that was banned around 4 years ago.
So far so good. But I am also worried later this year I may suddenly get a suspension email but I would like to think if that were to happen it would have happened already especially as they have ran a soft credit check on me. |
| james_112233 | 06-26-2020 12:59 PM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Busi...s/td-p/6651657
Reading that thread tells me ebay are getting desperate. They were expecting a high volume of people to sign up but they haven't.
Lots of big sellers with thousands of feedback are claiming they can't wait to close up shop if ebay force them on to managed payments.
What that tells me is ebay will need every previously banned seller that has been selling under stealth, performing well, adhering to their policies to STAY on the platform. So even if they see you are banned they will just turn a blind eye and let us carry on ...
Or is that wishful thinking on my part lol ? |
| Pathos | 06-26-2020 01:41 PM | Re: Managing Payments Requesting ID Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 1102208)
Well the reason I joined this forum is because I was banned from ebay not paypal.
So the address provided to ebay after transitioning my account is now my REAL address, the address that was banned around 4 years ago.
So far so good. But I am also worried later this year I may suddenly get a suspension email but I would like to think if that were to happen it would have happened already especially as they have ran a soft credit check on me. | I think its wishful thinking regarding the linking, the eBay BOTS will just sweep and destroy. I did go back in and change my banned account address and name details to random ones as probably a futile but additional precaution. Made me feel a bit better anyway lol
Sadly, I have to do the same on one of my accounts, so I am will be at similar mercy as yourself.
I think the team doing the credit checks etc are using the Ayden terminal function, so won't neccesarily be looking at the details given specifically, just the response from the Adyen system.
We can only hope really.
Did you change your name and address in the ebay account settings first or did you just put them into the MP settings, and it changed them for you, like the American way?
But f**k me, if I hear another moan about micropayments on the ebay forums. I cant believe people actually bother selling stuff with such low profit margins. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:10 AM. | |
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