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Originally Posted by dark_knight (Post 1093431)

no, i stop cuz i don't have a real bank account or address for it also id not a problem here you can make id and it was work with PayPal then will work with eBay as well but the problem with bank account cuz it seems they want real bank not virtual and address and match name

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 1093435)

But if your ebay account has a stealth address what will you do when they ask for a bank statement - fudge the address to match your ebay stealth address?

Originally Posted by pathos (Post 1093437)

from what i can gather from this eloquenty formed paragraph, you are referring to the us mp?

Originally Posted by ebaywanton (Post 1093445)

You'll just have to get creative with the bank statement if you need it to match with your real address. A little bit of editing on Photoshop should do the trick. However, my worry is that ADYEN may be able to see what address is linked with the bank account, is that possible do you think?

Originally Posted by User220 (Post 1095196)

Ok so is this what they need

Name on eBay account to match bank statements, bank account and photo ID
What about the address as you may have a different address for your business bank account rather then your residential address

Originally Posted by goodstealth (Post 1098205)

We have registered on MP for UK account. From documents the only bank statement was asked. No ID required.

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1098241)

Did you provide genuine details? and matching name bank account?

Originally Posted by goodstealth (Post 1098322)

Account is stealth (details are not real) but bank matchs the ebay acc name

Originally Posted by goodstealth (Post 1098322)

Account is stealth (details are not real) but bank matchs the ebay acc name

Originally Posted by goodstealth (Post 1098405)

Name and DoB is not real.

I mean bank account name matches the eBay account business name

Originally Posted by CaptainComedown (Post 1099834)

I think in the first few weeks of MP being forced on sellers, that Adyen will be so busy that they will barely have time to check anything properly, plus I sincerely doubt they have access to any system that allows them to verify the authenticity of a passport etc.
Its probably just an ass-covering exercise so that if anything goes wrong they can show the documents you provided and then effectively the blame is not theirs.

I'm just trying to be optimistic about it, when MP comes I will change the names on my accounts, then register for MP and create whatever documents they want and I imagine it will be fine. You just gotta believe!!

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1100275)

The Name /Bank account check is automatic through Ayden, its like when applying for a credit card, its part of the identity check etc.

I guess we have to wait to see if it can bypassed. Im resorting to genuine names and matching bank accounts, I feel its the only way at the moment to continue trading.

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1098428)

So you're running ⊗⊗⊗⊗ bank accounts?

or is this a business bank account?

Originally Posted by ebaywanton (Post 1093400)

Im sure the ID part is for business accounts who have passed the 85K VAT threeshold, as i have also got the email but it does not mention anything about ID

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1100283)

Would be great to see the source for that fact.

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1100382)

That’s what Adyen can do potentially.... doesn’t actually mean that they will do it. It also doesn’t in any way reference being able to actually verify the name in the bank and other than via bank statement

Stop the scaremongering until you’ve got some actual facts as opposed to making a ton of assumptions and guesses

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1073669)

Essentially, i am convinced 100% that after 31st March, the first PayPal 1p deposits/withdrawals on new accounts will kill any stealth account if not using the same name immediately. However, I am not entirely sure if existing accounts with withdrawals already setup are going to be affected (at this stage anyway, but that could also be wishful thinking on my part.

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1100393)

You’ve been singing the same tune for many many years and it’s always the end of days with you and always worst-case scenario without actually doing any fact checking. Remove PayPal and the CoP a few mo that ago and how you told everyone time and time again it was the end of it all. Look how that worked out.... :thumb:

Just to refresh your memory though

Just like then what you are saying now is pure speculation and not actually based in facts with evidence. It’s just guesswork. Same thing you have been doing for years.

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1100553)

You will find I have said long term that doesn't work as it can be picked up on manual account reviews. Which is what does happen. Sometimes.

I think you used the word wrong there for the point your trying to make :thumb:

Your the only one that keeps saying everyone is bias and partial.

Right now most people are just waiting to see exactly what happens with MP. Myself included. When its actually implemented and can actually be used - then there will be answers.

Your issue is that your like a punter at the race track trying to collect his winnings before the race has even started.



I am not sure how else to explain to you that guessing isnt a fact. A fact is something that 100% happens. Throw a pen in the air and it will drop to the ground. Fact. Adyen is not yet in place fully in eBay UK - so there are not facts to be found. When its in place, then we can start to look at what they do and do not do.

If COP was an issue then you can bet it would have been reported. Basically you were wrong on that despite being 100% sure was going to be the end of everything.

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1100584)

I've signed up and been accepted. MP starts for me in 'late July'.

IMO, based upon the information I gave and the checks the said they were making, I believe that mismatched names will not work. There is also the issue of refunds if you have insufficient funds. They will take it from your bank account or credit card, I suspect the latter will attract less attention assuming you can choose. I doubt it, I think they'll go to bank first, card second.

I understand the purpose of this forum, lets not kid ourselves, but it seems apparent to me that none of the account sellers are actually ebay sellers, or less likely, simply refusing to share any tidbits. Their lack of forward thinking commentary is to be understood I guess, they're relying on folk here to feed them with data because they cannot generate any of their own. Fair enough you could say, but no reason to dismiss others who want to look at the worse case scenario is it? I'm happy to be corrected.

Has any of the UK ebay account sellers applied for managed payments to find out for themselves what is happening?

One thing I do expect and that is the mandatory submission of bank details when you open an account, similar to Amazon. If so, that is gong to be very difficult to negotiate for account sellers, mismatched names permitted or otherwise.

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1100604)

I don’t see how that is any different to the current PayPal situation where if you don’t have enough money in your account they will try and dig into your bank account for it. The process remains exactly the same as it was before. Make sure you keep enough money in your account for refunds if needed.

I’m afraid you are quite misinformed if you think that none of the service providers or account sellers here on the forum sell on eBay themselves

There is nothing wrong with looking at worst case scenario. What I have an issue with is someone presenting it as an absolute indisputable fact much like he did with COP. If you going to say something and tell everyone it’s a fact back it up with some evidence.

With regards to the senior members here needing to be spoonfed.... you can really think what you want.

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1100960)

We could easily mine your threads and find where you have claimed something as 100% fact which hasn't been, but I have little time for personally directed attacks. The subject here is MP, and all information, based on published facts (such as Aydens checklist, ebays requirement lists etc) are valid for discussion for all to prepare.
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Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1100968)

Go ahead then.... I am pointing out that you have a very long track record of stating things as indisputable facts and causing a lot of people to worry and they tends to turn out to be wrong. Some people learn to stop doing it. Others don't and carry on making claims that they are sure are 100% true.

Again until MP is actually working and in practice we just don't know how the refunds will work. Could they always take it from your bank account - absolutely possible. Would that then be an issue. It certainly could be. There is an option for it to also be funded by card, just like on PayPal, I expect will be able to choose which is the primary source. The key however is that its not yet in place in the UK and only a few thousand in the US are enrolled on it so we don't yet know how it will work fully. Wait for the race to finish before you start trying to collect your winnings.

Im sure you don't need us to help you work things out. You clearly have a much better understanding of how it all works. Im not really sure why you grace the forum with your presence if I am honest.

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1100971)

Your posts are becoming increasingly cyclic. You have a long track record of diverting or silencing conversation away from areas you have a financial interest in.

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1100958)

I can't wait till we see those with the account sellers with their 'experience' offering up some snippets and info to the mix. No point in 'keeping quiet' when there is already tonnes of information to go on.

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1100975)

So you keep saying time and time again

What I am actually saying is to actually get facts before making claims that this or that will definitely happen. Try to twist and divert it as much as you want, but the only message I am giving is stop claiming things are 100% a fact and will 100% happen until you actually know that. Really that simple.

MP first phase is in the UK. Vested interest emails have been sent out, as well as approvals on some accounts which yes I have gotten (on a few fully stealth accounts). Have you? Its not getting used until he end of July though which you would know if you had an account that was approved for MP and even then not all accounts that have displayed a vested interest will be enrolled. Its taken them 2 years to get to around 8000 users in the US. Its not happening over night here in the UK either. Its getting rolled out slowly to include more and more users over the next 6 to 12 months. it could well be as short as 6 months, but that would come as a surprise (take note how I am not saying its 100% certainly going to or not going to happen within a given time frame because I simply dont know)

I hate to say this but that delay you have seen - its been happening for about 8 months on eBay now when making an sellers account. Again you would know that if you made accounts yourself recently which you clearly have not. eBay have been running these checks well before Adyen got involved.



Correct. Hence staying away from grand declarations that this will 100% happen.