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ray 07-08-2017 04:46 AM

PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Firstly, I want to express how sad I am now, PayPal closed my REAL account 7 months ago without giving me any specific reason, then I received an email said I would have to wait 180 days, now it's over 200 days since PayPal closed my account I am still not able to access to my money.

I sent emails to PayPal but never gone through as they all ended up with automatic response email. Then I called PayPal many times and I was asked to provide photo ID and proof of address which I did and they asked to wait 24-48 hours, but everytime I received exactly same message

"Thank you for responding to our requests to further verify your information. As we cannot release the funds on your PayPal account until all requirements have been met, we would appreciate your help with completing the steps below, so that we can review your account further.... "

They kept asking me to send other types of ID and proof of address and I did have sent them both my passport and driving licence, utility bill and phone bill, not sure what they really want?

As I never got any useful response from PayPal, I have to call them again and again and everytime I called, some staff told me to wait 24-48 hours, the others told me that my documents were not accepted and asked me to sent other types of documents, which I did, but then nothing happened, I have to call PayPal AGAIN, same thing happened (some told me to wait the others told me the documents are not accepted), it seems that PayPal does not care they just want to hold my money with no reasons?

The documents I sent are 100% real, this is not a stealth account, I got over £3000 on that account, any advise will be much appreciated!

zamzam 07-08-2017 06:24 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Truly sorry to hear of your experience however rest assure you are not alone. My situation is also more or less the same, coming up to 7 months now and have sent my driving license, passport and even birth certificate. But they still reply with that stupid email we can't accept and provide ID. What more are we suppose to show? Seems like another one of there cheeky tactics to hold on to your funds for longer....

empirestate 07-08-2017 06:46 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Let this be a lesson for those people who like to leave a huge chunk of money in PP and hope that nothing will happen. I always advise people to withdraw money as soon as PP allows it and just leave enough to cover fees. This is the very reason BTC was invented, DECENTRALIZATION.

just_smile 07-09-2017 03:45 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
This is becoming more and more common. There's quite a few similar threads recently. I think persistence is key, and as the account is real, the threat of legal action may move things along if they don't play ball.

If you have any progress please update the thread.

Play 07-09-2017 08:16 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Dont leave more money than you can afford to lose in a PayPal account. But at the same time, don't always clear your balance when withdrawing/spending, leave enough behind to cover fees, chargebacks and a few disputes.

AK81 07-09-2017 09:20 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by empirestate (Post 857245)
Let this be a lesson for those people who like to leave a huge chunk of money in PP and hope that nothing will happen. I always advise people to withdraw money as soon as PP allows it and just leave enough to cover fees. This is the very reason BTC was invented, DECENTRALIZATION.

And also unrealistic, I am a BIG BIG user and supporter of Bitcoin but pushing it onto the everyday person is not an easy task especially when sites like PayPal have such a big foothold.

zamzam 07-09-2017 10:22 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AK81 (Post 857452)
And also unrealistic, I am a BIG BIG user and supporter of Bitcoin but pushing it onto the everyday person is not an easy task especially when sites like PayPal have such a big foothold.

Am I missing something here... I'm aware of Bitcoin and how it works however what does this have to do with the current scenario? Can bitcoin be used as an alternative withdrawal method or way of getting your funds??

slokor 07-09-2017 11:04 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Sounds like it might be time to lawyer up.
Id call again. Dont bother talking to whoever answers. Just ask them their name and employee number then tell them you want their supervisor. Explain to the supervisor that this ridiculous situation has gone on long enough and if the funds are not released immediately you demand the info for their legal department to file a formal law suit against them.
That should put a nice flame under their butts and is worth it for the amount theyre keeping from you. I dont know if there is such a thing as small claims court over there but its worth looking into.

ray 07-09-2017 11:16 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 857463)
Sounds like it might be time to lawyer up.
Id call again. Dont bother talking to whoever answers. Just ask them their name and employee number then tell them you want their supervisor. Explain to the supervisor that this ridiculous situation has gone on long enough and if the funds are not released immediately you demand the info for their legal department to file a formal law suit against them.
That should put a nice flame under their butts and is worth it for the amount theyre keeping from you. I dont know if there is such a thing as small claims court over there but its worth looking into.

Thank you for your tips, I will wait another 24 hours before taking futher action as I just provided my other type of photo ID, BTW, I have read some threads here and some people said that in this case calling PayPal USA will solve the problem but I did call them a few minutes ago the rep said I have no choice but to wait 24 hours, I asked the reason why they could not accept my real documents, the guy said because they could not verify it (what a bull****) PayPal can do anything them want, having many stealth accounts able to withdraw without providing another after 180 days but refused to give my money back on my real account

ray 07-09-2017 11:19 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zamzam (Post 857238)
Truly sorry to hear of your experience however rest assure you are not alone. My situation is also more or less the same, coming up to 7 months now and have sent my driving license, passport and even birth certificate. But they still reply with that stupid email we can't accept and provide ID. What more are we suppose to show? Seems like another one of there cheeky tactics to hold on to your funds for longer....

Sorry to hear you are in the same situation as mine, any luck?

zamzam 07-09-2017 02:52 PM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ray (Post 857468)
Sorry to hear you are in the same situation as mine, any luck?

Nothing as of yet, have rang in again since last week waiting for the usual email update. I'm not giving up though, neither should you. The last resort in your scenario would be legal action as suggested by another OP

zamzam 07-09-2017 03:40 PM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Does PP still have a email address I can write to in relation to getting funds released??

empirestate 07-09-2017 07:18 PM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AK81 (Post 857452)
And also unrealistic, I am a BIG BIG user and supporter of Bitcoin but pushing it onto the everyday person is not an easy task especially when sites like PayPal have such a big foothold.

A baby must crawl before it can walk.

ray 07-09-2017 10:16 PM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zamzam (Post 857503)
Does PP still have a email address I can write to in relation to getting funds released??

I have sent the email to many active PayPal email addresses with no single reply, you can try it if you like, below the the PayPal email addresses I have sent my message to:

'appeals@paypal.com'; 'webform@paypal.com'; 'intl@paypal.com'; 'complaint-response@paypal.com'

James Brown 07-10-2017 03:54 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Don't waste your time trying to email Paypal, the only replies they send are automated and usually not helpful at all for the questions asked.

If as you say all the docs are genuine then it seems strange they are deliberately being awkward. The best course of action seems to be, upload the docs then wait a couple of hours, call them and say you just uploaded documents but not sure whether they went through properly. In my case the operative checked docs had arrived then said they would be reviewed in 24 - 72 hours. I got the funds available to withdraw email in about 48 hours.

Maybe there is a backlog due to being swamped with d**gy docs from stealth accounts and the back office cannot cope Lol.

Bunneh 07-10-2017 09:53 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
the only email i have had responses from when in this type of situation is

ppelce@paypal.co.uk

as far as i know that is the escalation office.

If all else fails report them to the CSSF in Luxembourg.

ray 07-10-2017 10:19 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 857604)
the only email i have had responses from when in this type of situation is

ppelce@paypal.co.uk

as far as i know that is the escalation office.

If all else fails report them to the CSSF in Luxembourg.

Great information, do you know how to report them to the CSSF in Luxembourg? thanks

Bunneh 07-10-2017 10:27 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
you need to fill out the complaints forum and email them :)

http://www.cssf.lu/en/consumer/complaints/

form : http://www.cssf.lu/fileadmin/files/F..._111116_EN.pdf

zamzam 07-10-2017 12:09 PM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 857614)
you need to fill out the complaints forum and email them :)

http://www.cssf.lu/en/consumer/complaints/

form : http://www.cssf.lu/fileadmin/files/F..._111116_EN.pdf

Do you need support from a solicitor for this or can this be done alone by individual filling compliant??

James Brown 07-11-2017 04:04 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Sorry but I don't understand how Paypal can legally refuse to release funds, provided genuine ID has been submitted to them?

The story about not being able to verify the ID is rubbish. Obviously the docs need to be clearly visible in the photo, showing the full document including edges, so they can see it is a real document. If the docs provided are UK based, driving licence, passport, bank statement or whatever they can easily verify them.

Maybe if someone presented non UK ID there could be problems, but again Paypal are worldwide so I'm sure they would have an office in a country where the docs were issued, so verifying should be no problem.

Having to consider resorting to legal means to get your own money released is ridiculous, time consuming and most likely very expensive. So dealing direct with Paypal is always going to be the better option.

ray 07-13-2017 01:03 PM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
UPDATE: Good news, I am able to withdraw the money after I asked PayPal to verify my document again from their overseas office, James is right, as my photo ID is not based in UK, they did have their overseas PayPal office to verify it and they accepted it, thanks for all your help

zamzam 07-13-2017 01:28 PM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ray (Post 858296)
UPDATE: Good news, I am able to withdraw the money after I asked PayPal to verify my document again from their overseas office, James is right, as my photo ID is not based in UK, they did have their overseas PayPal office to verify it and they accepted it, thanks for all your help

Great to hear, wish you all the best in future...

ray 07-13-2017 02:57 PM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zamzam (Post 858304)
Great to hear, wish you all the best in future...

Thank you, any luck with your account? it seems that PayPal might have figured out ways to authenticate the documents we sent, so phake ID might not work anymore, but it should apply to those limited PayPal accounts due to failed 2500 EUR limits lifting

zamzam 07-13-2017 04:13 PM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ray (Post 858322)
Thank you, any luck with your account? it seems that PayPal might have figured out ways to authenticate the documents we sent, so phake ID might not work anymore, but it should apply to those limited PayPal accounts due to failed 2500 EUR limits lifting

Nothing yet, I ended up emailing the escalations department threatening legal action should they wish to hold my funds longer without genuine reason. Still waiting to hear back but hopefully they will release...

zamzam 07-18-2017 04:49 PM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Guys I'm still struggling with this, received the same repsonse from escalations department via email requesting for proof of id. I have sent passport, DL and birth certificate. They won't accept neither and still asking for proof of ID to release my funds! Where do I stand with this? Any other options anyone can advise or recommend please? I'm lossing the plot here plus it's a lot of money to me so I can't afford to just give up that easily...

bigboy 09-03-2017 09:08 PM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zamzam (Post 859363)
Guys I'm still struggling with this, received the same repsonse from escalations department via email requesting for proof of id. I have sent passport, DL and birth certificate. They won't accept neither and still asking for proof of ID to release my funds! Where do I stand with this? Any other options anyone can advise or recommend please? I'm lossing the plot here plus it's a lot of money to me so I can't afford to just give up that easily...

approx how much is in left in the account?

zamzam 09-04-2017 05:37 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Roughly around 2.5k

opaqueninja 09-04-2017 05:54 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Ive replied to your email ZamZam

aking 09-04-2017 07:24 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Paypal is not a bank!! They are making interest off your money not the other way around! Withdraw it and put it in he bank where you can actually make interest.

What I used to do is refund all my buyers and completely clean the account so paypal gets $0!! Since paypal won't release it, Id rather my buyers get the money than paypal.

James Brown 09-04-2017 10:48 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Usually the reason they keep requesting id is because either the docs sent are invalid or they are not photographed clearly enough. All edges must be visible so they can see it is genuine document.

To be honest I doubt paypal are going to mess about trying to screw someone out of their money. More likely they are attempting to get you to upload all your id docs then they have a full portfolio of all your id for future reference Lol. This is what eBay usually do then after all docs uploaded tell you the account will remain suspended.

If you are sending paypal clearly visible UK genuine docs, upload the docs then phone and ask if they were received ok. At this point they will probably tell you it will take 48 - 72 hours to verify docs. Then just sit back and wait. You should get the ready to withdraw email in about 2 days like I did.

vlb 10-26-2017 09:49 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aking (Post 869541)
Paypal is not a bank!! They are making interest off your money not the other way around! Withdraw it and put it in he bank where you can actually make interest.

What I used to do is refund all my buyers and completely clean the account so paypal gets $0!! Since paypal won't release it, Id rather my buyers get the money than paypal.

yip, this is the most satisfying way to do it.

If you know the money isnt getting withdrawn (like they keep refusing your docs) then just refund all buyers then use the built in exporter to get all buyers emails, send a mail merge to all buyers telling them the situation and that they should file a not received dispute.

Done this many times there is ALWAYS a bunch of people who will chance their arm and it ends up that paypal have to pay them out of their own pocket.

:)

butler620 10-28-2017 01:27 PM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
I’m in the same boat, they have also removed the function to refund buyers!! I can’t believe it

James Brown 10-29-2017 05:10 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
I seriously doubt that paypal are refusing to release customers money after genuine ID documents have been forwarded to prove the customers ID and address. I got my money released after 180 days by simply providing a uk bank statement and birth certificate. If the documents are non uk they should still be able to verify by forwarding to their office in country documents were issued.

I imagine they would be breaking the law by refusing to release customer funds if genuine ID has been supplied.

If you have no photo ID call paypal explain this and tell them what documents you do have. They cannot force a person to provide photo ID if they don't have it. A statement for bank linked to paypal seems to assist in this situation. Also remember you can still update the paypal address even if account is limited.

vlb 11-07-2017 05:55 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Brown (Post 880571)
I seriously doubt that paypal are refusing to release customers money after genuine ID documents have been forwarded to prove the customers ID and address. I got my money released after 180 days by simply providing a uk bank statement and birth certificate. If the documents are non uk they should still be able to verify by forwarding to their office in country documents were issued.

I imagine they would be breaking the law by refusing to release customer funds if genuine ID has been supplied.

If you have no photo ID call paypal explain this and tell them what documents you do have. They cannot force a person to provide photo ID if they don't have it. A statement for bank linked to paypal seems to assist in this situation. Also remember you can still update the paypal address even if account is limited.

Paypal DO withhold money even after genuine documents have been sent.

Trust me i have personal experience of it.

zamzam 11-07-2017 12:44 PM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Doesn’t make a difference if the docs are genuine or not, they hold funds regardless. Also speaking from personal experience however varies to why account is limited in first place...

Kiroshi 11-08-2017 03:52 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zamzam (Post 882856)
Doesn’t make a difference if the docs are genuine or not, they hold funds regardless. Also speaking from personal experience however varies to why account is limited in first place...

Yep. If they have reason to believe that your sales were the result of criminal activity via their platform eg F@ke items etc then in their minds why SHOULD you get it back.

jasonbkk 11-08-2017 04:40 PM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Brown (Post 880571)
I seriously doubt that paypal are refusing to release customers money after genuine ID documents have been forwarded to prove the customers ID and address. I got my money released after 180 days by simply providing a uk bank statement and birth certificate. If the documents are non uk they should still be able to verify by forwarding to their office in country documents were issued.

I imagine they would be breaking the law by refusing to release customer funds if genuine ID has been supplied.

If you have no photo ID call paypal explain this and tell them what documents you do have. They cannot force a person to provide photo ID if they don't have it. A statement for bank linked to paypal seems to assist in this situation. Also remember you can still update the paypal address even if account is limited.

Was your birth certificate real or stealth?

rsot 11-08-2017 09:52 PM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vlb (Post 882783)
Paypal DO withhold money even after genuine documents have been sent.

Trust me i have personal experience of it.

How much involved?

James Brown 11-09-2017 05:25 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonbkk (Post 883131)
Was your birth certificate real or stealth?

Private message sent.

sasse2017 11-09-2017 06:48 AM

Re: PayPal is not going to release my money after 180 days hold!!!
 
I have this problem to, I have an paypal account with like £2000 and every time I try to add a new bank account to get my money they wont accept it.


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