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Default New Amazon, which is better vpn, dial up or new user account?

Usually i make a new user account and reset my internet ip but i have had all my accounts closed recently, so is im trying a new approach... virtual private network? dial up with new user account? or sprint mobile card (my internet) with new user account?
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You'll need to provide more information. How do you know you actually have a new IP address?

VPN won't help if you're not following the other stealth rules.
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I bought the Stealth Book, followed all the rules and still got caught, i know my ip change because i go to whatsmyip.com everytime i log in, i also have a dynamic ip
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There is a bit more to getting on/staying on Amazon than is covered in the Stealth Book, which is specifically aimed at Ebay/PP.

The basics are there but you need to do some research on your own to achieve success!

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From what i was told you gotta buy a new computer/laptop for every Amazon account you start up.Ive tried to open new Amazon accounts on a banned computer and they get linked every time.Since i've started buying new laptops i have had no problems.
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From what i was told you gotta buy a new computer/laptop for every Amazon account you start up.Ive tried to open new Amazon accounts on a banned computer and they get linked every time.Since i've started buying new laptops i have had no problems.
That doesn't seem right. They only way they could do that is if they're getting the serial number from the hard drive, or other unique windows codes. If you have a new user account every time, you shouldn't have a problem.
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they do not check hard drives or serial #'s.
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I've successfully registered many accounts using the same methods as stealth accounts for ebay/pp from the same computer. Only difference is for every account I use a dial up number from a different state. Example, if I'm from California, I use a dial up number from Utah on one account, on the other I use one from Oregon. I register with address from other cities. That way the IP address is completely different, not just the last octet. Instead of it being example "77.66.55.XX" with only the XX being a different number, the entire address is completely different. So per say, 55.66.77.88 for one account and 88.66.77.22 for the other. But everything is done from the same desktop.

Amazon has a unique way of tracking, so maybe my luck as been that I try and be a completely different person from another state.

ALOT more money can be made on Amazon. Little competition, alot more profit, no chinese sellers under cutting everyone and you even make money off shipping charges.

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Something that is rarely talked about on this forum is how Amazon tracks what sellers are listing and how much they are selling then blocks an account accordingly.

If your acct. gets blocked and you open a new acct. with the same listings you will get blocked every time regardless of how "stealth" you are. If you sell more than a new seller usually does within the 1st 30 days then you will get blocked every time.

Go slow...list one item per account and sell no more then one or two items a day, After 30 days then gradually build up then u will b ok and obviously use all of the stealth techniques mentioned in this forum and aspkin's ebook.
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What about if you have a good, old account, selling steady, building....3000, 5000, then jump to 12,000-15,000..all legit, low risk categories..no 1-2 items a day, more like 50 a day
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What about if you have a good, old account, selling steady, building....3000, 5000, then jump to 12,000-15,000..all legit, low risk categories..no 1-2 items a day, more like 50 a day
Like someone else mentioned in another thread I would use the 10% rule (increase day/wk/mnth) at least for the 1st year of a new account.

The velocity limit thing kills me with Amazon. I had an orig. acct. selling books & CD's open for about six months averaging about 10 dollr a day then I added more best selling and it jumped 75 dollr a day aftr 6 mnths then 2 months later it doubld then my acct. was put under review then passed after 7 days and was ok'd (eventlly clsd 2 mnths ltr.). All stuff was legit. but I got my 1st review by Amazon when my money doubld in a short period of time (in day/week).

I believe it is better to have x # of accts. with gradually increasing sales ovr mnths then 1 or 2 that suddenly jump in sales after only one or two months.
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Well I'm featured so I think they expect huge increases
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how do u get 'featured' ? u can pm if u want.
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how do u get 'featured' ? u can pm if u want.
you sell, a lot
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Remember when you read stealth and it said to cool off when etc...Get lots of accounts cause its easier then tying your shoes, play small forever, add ten smalls and you got one big GET IT! What I love the most about it is not having 50 cry baby emails every night! It's like when you do your taxes, don't get noticed with large write offs all at once. As for IP's, User acc's, I do stealth and never have any problems with amazon. Get smart don't get greedy!
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Well if I encounter problems then yes I'm going full multi stealth balls to the walls vero..but if I can do well without that stuff then that's a better way to do business..profit margins aren't as high and it's more work but the more work you do the more you can make. I do notice more customer contacts with 3-4x previous volume but if I can have one account that I can automate and integrate with other systems then it's much better than trying to go in with 10 accounts...shipping 100 things a day is hard enough, I don't need 10 x 10
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I've successfully registered many accounts using the same methods as stealth accounts for ebay/pp from the same computer. Only difference is for every account I use a dial up number from a different state. Example, if I'm from California, I use a dial up number from Utah on one account, on the other I use one from Oregon. I register with address from other cities. That way the IP address is completely different, not just the last octet. Instead of it being example "77.66.55.XX" with only the XX being a different number, the entire address is completely different. So per say, 55.66.77.88 for one account and 88.66.77.22 for the other. But everything is done from the same desktop.

Amazon has a unique way of tracking, so maybe my luck as been that I try and be a completely different person from another state.

ALOT more money can be made on Amazon. Little competition, alot more profit, no chinese sellers under cutting everyone and you even make money off shipping charges.
When u say " I use a dial up number from a different state" u mean land-line? how it all works?
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From what i was told you gotta buy a new computer/laptop for every Amazon account you start up.Ive tried to open new Amazon accounts on a banned computer and they get linked every time.Since i've started buying new laptops i have had no problems.
When you got a new computer, do you also change your internet provider or just changing ip and modem will do the trick?
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When you got a new computer, do you also change your internet provider or just changing ip and modem will do the trick?
changing your isp is not needed, you just need to make sure your ip address is different. (you don't have to change the modem either)
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