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I was wondering if anyone out there that was using Auctiva before a suspension is using it in a new account.

Reason is that I was using Auctiva in my pre-suspension days and got used to it. But one account I created worked fine for about two weeks using Auctiva and then got linked to my suspended account when Auctiva sent out some listings. The listings got posted and within half an hour, the account was linked.

I heard that one possibility is that I had a reference to a common image in one of my listings, but I didn't use any common references to my knowledge. And I didn't even try to sell the same stuff.

Now, on my accounts without Auctiva, I am selling the same stuff I was and they haven't touched them.

So, does Auctiva in their little exchange to get the EBAY token among other things identify you to EBAY in some way? And if so, how?

throughout the whole of last year,i used auctiva with every new account everytime an old one got suspended.and all the accounts were connected to the same paypal account.i know why and how my accounts were killed and it had nothing to do with auctiva.however things might be different this year cos ebay's stepped up with thier security measures.

cheers,
machine

Thanks...
 

I think I know a way that EBAY does this. I think they plant images in their listings. Either beacons or well known icons.

Then, when you search and grab ads from EBAY, even if you aren't logged in, they are linking these icons to you.

If they get linked to a fixed IP address that belongs to a suspended account, and you later post them from a different account, the link is made.

I think that is how I got caught. I was stealing existing EBAY ads for my listings.

I'd like to know this too. Whether I should go seek out another free auction host. It seems logical that using the exact same images stored on Auctiva connected to a suspended account could provide a clear link to ebay if you pulled them straight from that account for listing a new auction. Perhaps it would be safer to upload the images all over again? I'm not sure, but maybe worth a try?

that's exactly what I think as well. when I got suspended I went to the trouble of re-shooting all my images, changing the file names and then uploaded them to a different image hosting site.

it would take some serious detective work to figure that out. I'm sure they have enough on their plate with people tripping themselves up anyway, given the many traps T&S have in place already.

I think the key is something aspkin had in the very first guides early last year - you have to become a new person - and that goes to the (timeconsuming) extent of having to do all this.;) ;) ;)

With all the millions of photos filtering through ebay on a given day, I doubt you'd have to take all NEW photos, unless they're already personalized in some way. Generic pics should be fine. When you upload your existing images to a new hosting site, doesn't this already change the file names, adding enough to the extension to make it brand new? That was my understanding anyway.

I only re-shot them all because I sell a particular line of items that few people are selling and mine had been shot in a distinctive way. if the items you're selling a more common then there's no need to I guess.

Its just like turbo lister to me. Auctiva reminds me of it. I only use what I know is safe and doesnt link me in anyway.

Turbo Lister is a lot more buggy than Auctiva at least for me. I can almost always depend on Turbo Lister to give me some headache or another when listing, especially when I have a lot to get done! Never fails.

So some of you have been using Auctiva on suspended...
 

accounts with success? How long?

I agree, turbolister is a b*tch sometimes.

I've used photobucket exclusively. Free, easy signup, throwaway accounts with decent bandwidth limits. Even if you are listing lots of pictures on auctions with lots of traffic, you could easily use one account for several dozen listings a week, and if you need more bandwidth, open a new account.

I plan on just getting a new photobucket account(s) anyway. Its easy and costs zip. And to everyones point, you just link to the pics in your description, and that added pics cost you nothing. I created all my listings in FrontPage with links to all the pics, and just copy and paste the html into turbolister. Its the easiest way I've found to create professional looking ads.

Re-using Auctiva After Suspension
 

I am a suspended user and I would like to know if re-using the same Auctiva account that sent my previous auctions will trigger another suspension. I was suspended for being "linked" to another ID. I am worried that the URL's of old images I have there are now being tracked..is this true? Or should I open a new auctiva a/c?? I will follow the guidelines laid out in this forum to get back up and running but I have alot of auctions and pictures stored on auctiva and I want to simplify the process. I already plan to change up the wording in the listing.....:confused:

If the picture URLs are exactly the same, then yes that could be a problem. But be sure that your computer is clean and your ip different as well. There are a lot of factors that can link your accounts; any one mistake can link your account.

eBay suspension guide

Re-using Auctiva After Suspension
 

So how do I change the URL? Any ideas?

To be safe, I'd recommend creating a new user id on Auctiva as well. It is after all free, and you have nothing to lose by doing so, while not doing so could cause another suspension. Auctiva isn't run by Ebay, but they are close associates it seems, closer than some others. Better safe than sorry. :)

I don't think eBay and Auctiva share info at all. eBay is not a fan of any outside vendor with services that they offer and I can't see Auctiva sharing your information with eBay. I think the URL may pose a problem if eBay keeps picture link data.

It may all come down to the neutrality of your user name. I'm curious to know how close your user names would have to line up before ebay could track that back to you. Would, for instance, having the same user name on both Auctiva and Ebay make any difference? If not, you could keep the same Auctiva account for as long as you like. You would only need to re-upload your photos.

I don't think eBay has a hold of your Auctiva user name. When you go generate a token, your Auctiva login is no where to be found on the oage.

Does anyone know if you push auctions thru Auctiva, is your IP address going along with it or is the IP addy coming from Auctiva's own? For instance...if I list an auction from a "ebay banned" PC thru Auctiva, will eBay know that?

Why does anybody do anything? For any number of reasons really. For instance, it was there before the ebay account and you like it...or it's attached to your business name and people already know you...or....you're just curious, etc. Curiosity may kill the cat eventually, but without it he'll have a pretty dull epitaph. As for creating a new account just for the heck of it....hey you stole that line from me! ;)

What about my IP address question? what IP address is sent out when you push thru new auctions? My IP or Auctiva's?

I never used Auctiva before, how does it work? Is it like a turbolister, where you download a client to create and upload your auctions? Or is it something you do from Auctiva's website?

Aspkin, everything happens from the Auctiva website. Nothing to download. You create an account and upload pictures/create auctions right there. It's a pretty nice service really, and I like some of the extras quite a lot. They have forums too. Oh, and it's FREE. Can't go wrong there.

Hmm, it would make sense that the ip comes from auctiva then. Your auctions only though. Once you log into your eBay account from your CPU, you'll still need to use a fresh ip.

thanks guys..you have been great help! this forum is great!

Auctive vs. Blackthorne
 

Jack,
I am thinking of using Auctiva. Have been using Blackthorne-Ebay's new Baby. But want to change things before restarting. Plus, had alot of trouble with Blackthorne. Does Auctiva track inventory? Sounds like you like it.

MSunderstood - I've heard Blackthorne is overly complicated. That's what I liked about Auctiva. Pretty simple interface, nicely layed out, lots of features, free images and you can save your listings for seemingly forever before loading them up for auction. I'm not sure about the inventory function though. I usually just sell one of an item at a time. They do have a good forum and it's a friendly community, so you might just sign up and ask some of the regulars. I'm sure someone will know the answer. One word of caution though, you might not want to advertise having been suspended. I'm still not too sure how "close" any of them are with ebay.

"Does anyone know if you push auctions thru Auctiva, is your IP address going along with it or is the IP addy coming from Auctiva's own? For instance...if I list an auction from a "ebay banned" PC thru Auctiva, will eBay know that?"


What is the answer to this question. I am dying to know.
Thanks!

Auctiva
 

If you've ever used Auctiva, you know what I'm talking about. When you first register for Auctiva, it sends a generated "token" that allows you to not have to supply your user id/password every time you upload to ebay from Auctiva, something like a "remember my password" option I guess. This "links" the Auctiva account to your ebay account just so information can be sent there like feedback and the like. Does anyone know if these tokens research your IP or other information that could lead to linking of accounts? It's been pretty well cleared that 3rd party sites and ebay do not share information, but in the case of the token, is this the exception? :confused:

I've been trying to figure out which is safer to use with the best chances of not being suspended--Turbo Lister or Auctiva. To this point Auctiva seemed the safe bet, but with this "token" thing, I'm just not sure, as it "may" have the potential to link an old account to your new account?

Anyone have some information to share to clear up this mystery?

By the way, if it hasn't been confirmed already, I found out turbo lister doesn't work by comparing different user id's within the program, but rather by your different IP addresses, so that's good to know. If you switch your IP or use dialup, you should be relatively safe using the program. At least that's what I've been informed by an employee.

Whose IP Address Does Ebay Detect If I use AUCTIVA ?
 

I have been going to a friends house to do ebay but now Im thinking of launching auctions from home.I am wondering if I NEVER log into ebay from home, AND never answer any emails from home is it SAFE to launch auctions from AUCTIVA or INKFROG or any other third party service?

Whose IP address would ebay detect if I listed this way?

Thanks!

I don't know but I'm steering far away from Turbo Lister and Auctiva until somebody has some answers. And with ebay's new less than great listing tool... it's not easy. If anyone finds out, please tell!!

I was wondering the same thing...Got pretty nervous on the verify token w/ mr poster. I use an image hosting image service and simply went to godaddy.com and bought a new domain, parked it with my image host. Now, my file structures remain on my FTP just a new domain name accesses them exactly the way it did with the old one. Worked pretty slick...Problem seems to be that all the file names are still the same. Not sure if the fact that folders and general image names are traced for similarities for a flag....guess we'll see in a few weeks ;)

SUSPENDED 2007: I wouldn't do anything from a computer with an IP from a suspended account. Why not just change your IP on the home computer? I had to disconnect my entire network and do a hardline from computer to modem, then followed the Aspkin guided then re-setup my network. Worked like a charm...

Or for the fiscally challenged...just use dial up!

Modee, auctiva tokens/merchant account
 

I have an auctiva auction management account and a merchant account interagated in to auctiva that i use for 1 ebay account and i have another account with a seperate auctiva account but i didnt interagate the merchant account yet..


Now heres my question...

I pretty sure I can use the same merchant account with both auctiva accounts, but will ebay see that i'm using the same merchant account for both ebay accounts.\?

I dont think ebay can get that much info on my merchant account..

i hope not b/c that is what I am doing!!!

Using AUCTIVA, does Ebay track their IP or mine with scheduled listings?
 

So I finally am using Auctiva and am in love with it because you can schedule your auctions with less than 10 fb. I have 3 user names, and I hate resetting my modem everytime at X time of the day to list on X username. Besides that my modem is only in my basement.

However I just thought that when Auctiva does my user ID (we will call it X) scheduled listings, say at 10 PM, do my computer have to stay connected to that X IP or, I can shut my computer off, go back to my banned IP, and auctiva lists it through THEIR IP?

Because my old banned IP is using my wireless router, meaning I use the banned IP for everything else,everywhere in the house. I only directly connect to my modem when listing. If I were to be upstairs, NOT directly connected to my NEW IP during the time that my scheduled listing on Auctiva is listed (therefore browsing sites with my banned IP), would Auctiva use my banned IP to list ?

Or,would the scheduled listings go through AUCTIVAS servers?

Thank you very much! You have all been a great help to me!

I have a similar question, I am using my merchant account with Auctiva and Auctioncheckout. The merchant account was used with my old suspended user ID.

Now that I have a new ebay ID, can I still use my merchant account?

I will just change my info on Auctioncheckout to my new Ebay ID (new token etc) and make a new Auctiva account with the merchant info.

Will ebay see that my merchant account is the same as my suspended id and new id? Or they don't care about these 3rd party things:mad: :mad:

I would assume that eBay would be able to get some info from 3rd party payment providers. Otherwise, I doubt they would allow them as payment methods. With this weeks new crackdowns, I'm just gonna assume eBay knows everything. No Greendot, 1 cent auctions and waiting 30 days to sell, in addition to everything else that has been discussed might give us a chance.

No, it isnt none of their business