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Kleidis 06-25-2008 07:34 AM

Tor does indeed hide your IP, by routing your incoming and
outgoing data packets through the Tor network, the IP
shown to ebay and the outside world, will be that of
whichever tor exit node is used. You can manually
edit the config files to force a specific exit node in
a location of your choosing.
However, I would be very surprised if most of tors
exit nodes aren't blacklisted by ebay, due to people using
it for the same purpose as yourself. :D

HairyOldEbayer 06-25-2008 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trig (Post 47306)
Does it help hide your IP address?


Yes it does but for some really weird reason epay has serious problems when you login into them one day from Lyons France, the next day from Phuket Thailand, the next day from Seoul, Korea and the next day from Lima, Peru. :) Dunno why they think that is strange since I own my own Gulfstream.

TOR hides your IP but it gives you IPs from all over the world, not good if you wish to avoid epay suspensions/red flags.

They prefer to see the same IP login info all the time or else their overprotective automated bot security software will have a heart attack and flag you for review/auto-suspension.

About 9 years ago I logged into paypal from Chiang Mai, Thailand and that really blew a serious paypal fuse. My account was frozen and so was my debit card. They said so sorry but just as soon as you return home fax us over the needed info. I said well what am I supposed to do for money right now?? They said basically that's your problem. Lucky I always have good backups in AE travelers checks.


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trig 06-25-2008 07:53 AM

wow thanks -sheesh.

I guess I should get the stealth book.

HairyOldEbayer 06-25-2008 07:59 AM

Grab a copy of AOL 7.0 here, create a new aol email account from the main page of aol.com and you are good to go via the aol proxy.

America Online - OldVersion.com

Or just get a cheap 9.95 a month dialup service.


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trig 06-25-2008 08:25 AM

still, when i surf from mozilla, my ip address will be the same --yes?

HairyOldEbayer 06-25-2008 08:35 AM

Mozilla will show one IP. The one from your cable modem, dsl or dialup.

AOL 7 will show another different IP. The AOL proxy IP. It will run inside it's own little AOL window.


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trig 06-25-2008 08:57 AM

thank you for your help sir.

so, i download aol7, and use the aol 7 browser, then it's safe?

sorry for all the questions

HairyOldEbayer 06-25-2008 09:48 AM

Yes, using AOl you will get a new IP. I verify the IP address is different using ipburger.com

I've registered several accounts so far and no problems knock on wood.


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trig 06-25-2008 11:01 AM

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thanx again pal.

so it seems, get a new ebay acct thru aol, get a new pp acct (thru aol) with a new bank acct, and let the new ebay acct 'season' with small items etc.

what am i missing?

trig 06-25-2008 11:20 AM

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where is the aol registration # I need?

trig 06-25-2008 12:18 PM

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it looks like u have to pay for aol :(

HairyOldEbayer 06-25-2008 09:12 PM

Grab a copy of AOL 7.0 here,

America Online - OldVersion.com

Create a new free aol email account from the main page of aol.com and you are good to go via the aol proxy.

Also create a new windows user account and only access this aol account from that new windows user account. That keeps all the cookies and flash cookies straight.

http://i28.tinypic.com/2j4bvpj.jpg

http://i25.tinypic.com/313heag.jpg


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trig 06-26-2008 07:39 AM

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you have been a great help!

I will try that later today.

trig 06-26-2008 10:42 AM

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should i make it an admin acct? or limited?
if it's admin - will it link to the original windows user acct?

trig 06-26-2008 03:17 PM

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It worked!
Step#1 done!

Now, let me get this strait:

Get a new ebay acct using aol -- can i use my same name that ebay already knows? Or should I make up one?

Get a po box -- use that for my new pp acct?
My pp acct will have to have my real name -- rite?
Get a new bank acct -- I will be using my same name -- is that ok?
ebay and pp already have my name and address on file -- thoughts?

Exeneva 07-02-2008 05:07 PM

IP Masking Methods
 
Other than VPN and AOL Browser, are there any other ways to mask your IP?

I'm not talking about free proxies which don't support https. I'm talking about something you can download and use.

aspkin 07-03-2008 07:55 AM

99% of ip maskers don't work and eBay & Paypal hate them...

You'll either have to change your current ip address, use dialup, use a wifi connection, VPN, AOL Proxy, and probably a few other options, but ip maskers don't work.

oompaloompa 07-13-2008 05:58 PM

changing ip address
 
hi
ive got everything figured out, except ip change, my boyfriend will NOT let me touch his modem (not a euphemism) or call broadband to change address in case it mucks up his work activities or something goes wrong... so ive looked at proxy servers any experience out there, noted some forums say thy
are not good as e-bay picks them up as being in common use, also need to tally up to your approx location.
thought about buying cheap laptop but not very technical and arent wireless
subscriptions pricey and get tied into contract, anyway any suggestions, also can one use an 0845 number for phone verification, i notices you can buy them cheap and they sit on you existing line.
anyway proxy servers, anyone??

2jvacation 07-17-2008 01:32 PM

The best thing I am using is changing my mac address. I save them to every particular account so i have the same IP address with each account.

sparkle 07-24-2008 10:46 AM

The AOL proxy will get you banned. Avoid.

trig 07-24-2008 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparkle (Post 52716)
The AOL proxy will get you banned. Avoid.

why do you say this?
do you have any proof of this?

imjustme 07-24-2008 02:04 PM

There is no proof for anything. eBay is like acts of god. They can hit at any time, anyone. Just like a lightning strike or a tornado, they can hit you but not your neighbor.

trig 07-24-2008 02:13 PM

well, for someone to come on here and say AOL will get you banned is very alarming.

sometimes I wish this forum was totally membership only.

imjustme 07-24-2008 02:50 PM

I've heard about that too, but nothing is proven. Only eBay knows why they ban you and they won't tell you. So all we have is speculation.

sparkle 07-25-2008 08:53 AM

I tried it last week, it let me register, I waited a few days to get my paypal verified first, as soon as I listed my first item, I got suspended. Happened to another person here recently too. I can safely say it IS proven.

trig 07-25-2008 09:31 AM

i think theres more to it than that

ebayhateluv 07-25-2008 09:39 AM

HI Folks:
IM Probably more of a Glutton for Punishment than Most folks.. :)
Ive experimented with loosing 30-40 accts back in January of this year..
I can tell you MY OWN experience:
a.) I got suspended using Gmail, Hotmail, AOl Mail, even yahoo mail
b.) I got suspended while using Verizon DSL, while using Comcast Cable
c.) Ive been suspended while using AOL -but not nearly as much as via direct cable/dsl i.p.
d.) MY Golden accts-that i am very careful with--have been up/stayed up ever since I came to this forum last year... Most of them are Power Seller accts today
>>One thing about Aspkin--if he doesnt have the answer right then and there (which is rare)--he will get you a workable answer :)

trig 07-25-2008 09:43 AM

why do you think you were suspended?
have you had any suspended since you've been here?

sparkle 07-26-2008 03:02 AM

No I have made many accounts and theyre all fine. The ones that have been suspended I found out the reasons. The AOL suspension was due to "We are unable to verify your information". Maybe it works for americans still, someone else will have to try it.

DogFacedBoy 07-31-2008 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparkle (Post 52908)
No I have made many accounts and theyre all fine. The ones that have been suspended I found out the reasons. The AOL suspension was due to "We are unable to verify your information". Maybe it works for americans still, someone else will have to try it.

I have yet to have any problems with any of ther accounts that I access through AOL due to the AOL proxy. I had problems with one account but I am 100% certain that it had nothing to do with the AOL aspect.

But just when you think that you have it figured out ebay goes ahead and changes the rules.

jerkyboy1 08-01-2008 02:24 AM

Let me clear this up for you guys. Vtunnel.com, this site is free and supports https logins and other secure connections where passwords and usernames are needed. This site changes your ip address everytime and you can log in to ebay without being linked or do your shill bidding if needed. The only problem is if you use it often eBay will send you an third party authorized your account warning because of changing ip's all the time.

MrBluesky 08-01-2008 10:59 AM

new member help
 
hello all , just purchased the ebook. its printing off now, another purchase i have made is a IP address masker, and a separate laptop. So ive spent the money and need to get back on ebay

So please can you help me set up a new ebay selling account account.

thanks

ebayhateluv 08-02-2008 12:50 AM

HI Mr. Blue--its all in your ebook! (thank goodness)! :)
Be careful with the masker--ebay does not like them..

MrBluesky 08-03-2008 02:10 AM

i have been given my sisters account, i am using this " hide my ip address " software. surely if its a a account thats been going for a while they wont suspect someone else is using it. i have completed the online security checks they through at me as i just called her up.

what do you think?

scouse12345 08-04-2008 11:48 AM

If your using Bt Hub, you don't need an IP masker... and as advised already, they're not reliable.......

selous2001 08-05-2008 01:06 PM

Re; your repeated shutdown, I have heard of people using "cloak" software like Ultrasurf - this slows the PC down but allows you to operate online without snoopers causing problems, and I'm guessing that means it hides the PC's origins...?

jerkyboy1 08-06-2008 03:00 PM

my point sort of on that was if people were just making accounts to do shill bidding once or twice and then throw away then the proxy thing would be a good idea for that scenario because it would keep you safe. Also, I don't recommend going through any proxy to login to any type of important account of any kind for your information can be intercepted so once again it should probably be used only for accounts you don't mind losing or of no value.

dmeephd 08-07-2008 10:36 AM

VPN have proven to be OK
 
Although I got suspended using a proxy, I have since discovered that using a legitimate VPN is O.K. I use Reliable Hosting, and have two eBay accounts using two different VPN addresses. No problems since April 2008.

Yes, they cost $14.95 per month each, but since I sell over $5k per month, it's a cheap cost of doing business.

It would not serve eBay well to deny VPN access; virtually every corporate laptop connects its' traveling or out of the office employees via a VPN. Some companies use their own VPN, others use third-party VPN such as Reliable. I can't imagine that eBay is going to cut off thousands if not hundreds of thousands of well-heeled corporate users from accessing eBay while they travel or use their company computer at home or from a hotel room.

Another population of VPN users are those in China, who use a VPN to gain access to eBay that would otherwise be denied them. From their published stats, Reliable Hosting alone has tens of thousands of users from mainland China. How many are accessing eBay? Probably quite a few.

BTW, the IP address using a VPN such as Reliable shows up not as a proxy, but as a highly secure private network, based in the US.

freeagent 08-19-2008 01:32 PM

VPS (virtual Private Server)
 
Anyone try using a VPS server where you actually remotely login to a computer server in the location you are trying to show you are in? there are lots of VSP services starting at $8/mo, they can offer you multiple static IP addresses. sounds really good but need to hear from the forum before i risk any of my accounts. now using dialup and getting really frustrated.

Quasi_Mojo 08-19-2008 08:01 PM

The forum search tool doesn't like three letter words, so a heads up to those of you searching for information on topics that have three letters or less - use Goolge's site: parameter. This will allow you to do more advanced searching of the forum.
For example, the Google search: site:aspkin.com VPN

My problem with IP masking arises from the fact that I don't have control over the router. I'm in a basement apartment and the Internet service is provided by the landlord, upstairs. I don't have a landline and I only use a cellphone. My thought was to order the landline hookup and go with a dial-up. But after reading the eBay Stealth ebook, I was introduced to the idea of using a VPN company (thanks for the recommendation in the ebook, BTW).

My questions are:
1) Will I be able to use VPN through the router upstairs?
2) The VPN server is located in a different city in Ontario. Does this mean that my eBay/PayPal address should correspond to their location?
3) If I go with an account that changes the IP every time I connect, all I have to do to change my IP is to disconnect, log into another Windows account and re-connect, right?


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