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asianpickup 01-04-2008 07:14 AM

Sometimes it's not always a competitor. Sometimes it's just a guy who's on a spending spree and wants to bid first and ask questions later. If he likes the final price he gets or decides he really wants it, he goes through with the transaction. How do I know this? hehe

Ballsack 01-04-2008 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonfl23 (Post 19094)
Lol go on recipes.com go get him a recipe.. trust me people NEVER read the auctions that's why "Xbox wholesale list" type auctions can go up to $300 when it's just a list...

That's even worse!!!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally Posted by savahaganda (Post 19096)
how do you post 1 cent auctions for stuff like that... I still dont know how to post digital items...

and by the way Ballsack... I am not an American if it makes a difference... HA HA HA.


There's nothing to know. Just start the auction at a penny.

marche 01-06-2008 06:36 AM

well all it takes is a simple download link to get the receipie (you, the buyer can easily get it.) Its so easy to do, and you can keep the buyer happy, even if for sure he wont use it.

Ballsack 01-07-2008 02:33 AM

But why do I even need to do that? It's absolutely pointless and nonsensical. These ppl aren't interested in my personal deer jerky recipe. It seems the only thing they're interested in is being stupid. They know they're bidding on my auction to build their feedback and they know I'm doing it to build mine so what's the problem? It's no wonder why America is sinking fast.

mr burns 02-07-2008 06:21 AM

I buy visa gift cards from the post office straight over the counter
in Australia works fine here
They are $50 min though but thats ok cause my fees are normaly that after the first month

mr burns 02-07-2008 06:28 AM

oh sorry got side tracked with you all moving onto something alse in this thread lol

Whome email me the name of that sad puppy you had trouble with and il fix him up good!

Il have im suspended in a flash lol

imjustme 02-24-2008 07:27 AM

Fraudulent buyer got what he deserved ...
 
I had someone from Italy buy a $80 item (including shipping) about 2 weeks ago . I sent the package the next day and provided him with the tracking number. It was sent via just registered mail, not FedEx or anything like that. I also told him that from Japan to Italy, it probably takes about 3-4 weeks with registered mail. It also mentioned that in the listing.

He didn't answer, so I think it's all okay. Suddenly, a week after it was shipped, he opens a PayPal claim, not just a dispute, but says "never got product, money back please. fraud seller". Of course, I immediately provide PayPal the tracking information and notice myself that the item was actually delivered to him the day before the claim was opened.

So I reply that to the dispute, including the tracking URL, which shows the address but not the name of the buyer. I also check the feedback profile of the buyer and he has 5 positives from last year and 4 negatives from this year, 3 of them this month, of which all of them say that he's a fraudulent buyer that received the merchandise and then after opened a claim. How his account is still open with 4 negatives out of 9 I have no idea.

I also made PayPal aware of the fact that he has 4 negatives for the same reason.

So finally PayPal sends me an email that they have resolved the claim and guess what, in favor of the buyer. No comments here. I don't even care, it's just $80. I had not left him feedback yet and wasn't going to, because I don't want retaliatory feedback back from him.

So I logged into my eBay account and noticed I had the option to file for an unpaid item dispute, because the transaction funds were returned to him. So I did that and waited for 7 days. He hasn't responded and I gave him an unpaid item strike. A few hours later, I checked his profile and it was suspended. I guess that was one thing too much for him :D

Still it amazes me that it takes 5 negatives out of 10 for an account to be suspended. And for PayPal to side with the buyer after I can show the delivery address and the 4 negatives he received for the same reason.

GreenBean 02-24-2008 07:43 AM

$80.00 is only part. Why be slapped in the face twice with the buyer then
paypal?

Ballsack 02-24-2008 10:27 AM

Fact is paypal along with everyone else is afraid to death of chargebacks. That's why a company like bidpay was so special. Of course they screwed themselves by tying their entire business into ebay.

sdot10 02-24-2008 10:32 AM

yeah I read an interesting article that basically if the person pays with a credit card that there is no way the seller will win because paypal is scared that if they dont give the money back that the person can just go file a chargeback with their company and that comes out of paypals pocket. Esp in cases where the money has already been removed.

ebay-sucks 02-24-2008 11:58 AM

Congrats on fighting for what is right and winning.

highwhey 02-24-2008 01:34 PM

Paypal is weak. I wonder why they don't just block charge backs, they could care less for their customers, what's stopping them? E-Gold blocks charge backs.

aspkin 02-24-2008 09:09 PM

Nice job imjustme, its too bad you lost money though. I hate when that happens. :(

ytl 02-27-2008 01:49 PM

Evil Competitor / Malicious Buyer "Kicker"
 
I've discovered a way to do something, which many of us could really use. Imagine the scenarios:


Scenario One:
You know a certain buyer that you've had a bad experience with, you don't want to ban him because your afraid of having your account chopped, you also may have other accounts that your trying to keep separate. What action can you take?

Scenario Two:
You have an evil competitor. They sign up for accounts to buy products off people in their field to cause trouble and leave you negatives. You know who this (or these) people are. What action..can you take?



How about, a "Kicker" in your listings. When someone accesses your listing, it checks their username, if its one on your 'blacklist' it stores the IP, so that if they access with another account, and have the same IP they can also be identified. If one of these people, with a blacklisted UN or IP try to access your listings, they are instantly sent backwards by the browser.

It can be done, but here are the issues:

1) If the competitor is sophisticated enough, they can use the same methods one uses for multiple seperate ebay accounts to circumvent it
2) if they turn off javascript they can avoid being sent backwards, BUT with my method it will still have a record of them accessing the listing, and I'm sure we can think of non-javascript ways of denying them access without using the ban facility - the main thing is knowing who they are, and what they're doing.

Even with these issues, it could still irradicate most of problems in this area.

Let me know what you think, issues, would you like something like this etc.

ivegotinfo 02-27-2008 02:50 PM

i think if you are that pissed at a competitor/buyer/other person, just making them go back from your listing is like inviting a serial rapist for a cup of tea.
id want to do a little more than just make them not access your listing. but thats just me lol

ytl 02-27-2008 03:06 PM

i would think that the point is not revenge, but prevention of further issues.

prevention stops problems, revenge can tend to propel them, IMO.

Jonas 02-29-2008 11:25 PM

If he paid through your merchant account and you got his signature on his signature then if he says "not received but it is my address and I did order it" then you have his signature and he loses. If you have a signature of someone else in his home then you lose.

Registered mail does get the signature. If you pay $2.10 more for return receipt then you get something back of proof. Post office told me online tracking international is only for global express guaranteed.

Jonas 02-29-2008 11:49 PM

You can wait till they bid, cancel stating it was because of seeing buyer's feedback then block.

ytl 03-01-2008 04:48 PM

the problem with blocking, from looking at the forums, is that it sets off flags on eBay, especially if you block one user from several separate accounts.

the problem with malicious competitors, is that they can sign up new accounts and you could potentially not know who they are,

there's a way to link these competitors by IP, through the listings, in which case you have the upper hand, and can implement whatever is needed accordingly.

siashay 03-02-2008 10:03 AM

Just proves buyers gets away with anything
 
Just to prove how unfair ebay is to buyers. I opened a new account about a month ago, and started buying. When ebay pulled their new policy about not leaving the buyer neg feedback. I contacted two of my friends from out of state. (I didn't want to screw a unwilling seller). I had them both list something that I would bid on and not pay. One thing was for like $39 the other was a laptop for $399. I had them go through the whole thing with getting there fee's back, but told them not to leave neg feedback. Then I email one of them and cuss her out. I had her send the email to ebay. Ebay contacts me two days later with a warning. Then I go and start trouble on ebay's boards. Eventually I got kicked off the boards but not suspended. Then I bid on another one of my friends auctions. She tries to get her fee's back and ebay tells HER she should have blocked me and won't give her her fee's back. I get a warning from ebay that I am in contract I have to pay if I bid bla bla bla. I let the account sit for a week. Two days ago I put a cc on it and before I am done I get the suspension notice.
I know this info doesn't help you, but I found it very interesting how much they let the "buyer" get away with. As sellers, ebay put us all in jeopardy.

Jonas 03-06-2008 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ytl (Post 28716)
the problem with blocking, from looking at the forums, is that it sets off flags on eBay, especially if you block one user from several separate accounts.

the problem with malicious competitors, is that they can sign up new accounts and you could potentially not know who they are,

there's a way to link these competitors by IP, through the listings, in which case you have the upper hand, and can implement whatever is needed accordingly.


The only way to be almost foolproof is the have items fixed price, immediate payment required, but I don't know if that works with ccnow as I heard ccnow mails the invoice in.

DeathToEbay 03-11-2008 01:08 AM

Buyer complains about shipping charges after auction is over.
 
What to do?

Some kid complaining over $5 in shipping costs, and threating to report me to ebay for excessive shipping.



All the other buyers were charging the same price for this item.

I can't refund him my paypal is limited now.

DeathToEbay 03-11-2008 01:09 AM

If I did wrong e bay would cancel the auction!

I think it's because of the new e bay rules.

GreenBean 03-11-2008 01:23 AM

What is the deal? If this is one complaint, work through it and move on. Do you know this buyer personally? Or has he dared to stir something in you? Get my drift?
Should this be another complaint from another buyer, then you will have to look at your attitude in selling. Surely you really want a buyer(no matter how
stupid) to think you are a good guy..... you have to work the buyer and work them hard.

DeathToEbay 03-11-2008 01:28 AM

I just don't like being threaten for a few bucks. :P

GreenBean 03-11-2008 01:35 AM

Pick: a threat over a couple of bucks or bye bye from ebay?

Once, I would have seethed at that and acted stupidly.

imjustme 03-11-2008 02:55 AM

What does his name or Kebab got to do with anything?

thelizardking 03-11-2008 03:19 AM

Whats a Kebab coupon? Id be like...what? If I were hassan

Maybe give them a $5 refund? It sounds like you have a friend..maybe an old friend?

twdell 03-11-2008 08:11 AM

you have to think is the $5 really worth getting into a long email battle over? and is it worth receiving a negative feedback. now that you have been suspended from ebay the first time you have to everything you can to make the customers happy. i have been shipping things for free, and sometimes not even taking a payment. we have to kiss the customers butts now. i would be as polite as possible in your emails to him. try to avoid as many bad feedbacks as possible or you can get suspended again.

DeathToEbay 03-11-2008 10:21 AM

What's the use my paypal got limited again. I don't care anymore. I'll make a new account.

mantisinc 03-11-2008 10:40 AM

Why is your paypal limited? It has nothing to do with this I take it...?

DeathToEbay 03-11-2008 11:08 AM

Limited because I sold $500 item and withdraw $ too quickly

ivegotinfo 03-12-2008 01:46 PM

kill him off ebay :) if you are really pissed off

imjustme 03-12-2008 03:31 PM

hahaha ...cheapo buyer
 
I have the same product listed in my eBay shop, on 2 different accounts, but with 2 different descriptions, different photos (different background and view), etc. Basically I'm 2 different sellers to the buyers. I'm the only one selling this on eBay, though.

I sell it for $50 per item plus shipping and yesterday had a potential buyer ask me if I would consider selling him 3 of the items for $80 including shipping. Obviously I declined telling him it's not possible and I would lose money. I didn't hear back.

A few minutes ago, I got a question on my other account, from the same buyer, telling me the seller XYZ (my other account name) is selling me 3 of these items for $80. if you can give it to me cheaper I will buy it from you instead.

Hilarious!!! It doesn't work for $80, he goes lying to my other account name and tries to get it even cheaper!! :D

twdell 03-12-2008 03:39 PM

i hate when people ask you to end an item early, because of some sob story. they say they need this product asap. so then i give them the fair price of what the item usually gets i never hear from them again. cheapskate liars. i don't respond to end early questions any more. waste of time.

thelizardking 03-12-2008 03:49 PM

haha too bad you couldn't call him out on it...actually I just sold to someone early cause it went way above what I thought it would (Love when that happens) then left it up cause I have 2 went up even more and sold both basically at the same time and only paid fees once...thats rare tho

but otherwise im tired of the emails wanting a early ending for less than what their top bid is.."I didn't think my bid would go that high" then why did you put in that amount?

GreenBean 03-12-2008 03:59 PM

And ebay sides with buyers. Seems no matter what you try, buyers try you out
as well.

Jonas 03-14-2008 01:09 AM

I find buyers will want it ended ASAP but buyers take forever to pay for the item.

jscan 03-19-2008 02:28 AM

Idiot buyer, Possible not as described dispute with ebay
 
Hello, i am a seller of authentic designer wallets sourced from over stocked / end of season distributors. I recently sold a gucci wallet to a customer who is complaining that the box was badly scrached ( Which was clearly stated in the listing, Bold & underlined) and that the item is not authentic. I have sold over 15 of these before with no problems.

i am concerned that will open a " not as described " dispute with eBay. They paid via bank deposit as i dont accept paypals bull****. I currently have 40 feedback all 100% and have been registered since 2005.

I dont wish to give a refund so I am just wondering, what are your thoughts on the likely outcome if they do file a not as described dispute with ebay?
... suspension? would ebay side with them? they have 15 feedback 100%

Note they didnt pay by paypal so theres no worry of a paypal dispute.

Thanks

GreenBean 03-19-2008 02:58 AM

Why not think of it as good PR, swop the box with the.... buyer. Why create
dramas for yourself. Be flexible even in the face of BS.


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