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| agent006140 | 06-19-2019 06:20 PM |
Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
OP said he always send buyer a sample watch before filling the large order,it sounds like they both know these watches are counterfeit!
I would still say ,call this buyer and tell him to settle outside cc and Paypal.
Any investigation can drag the buyer in,as he is reselling these watches to buyers who then resell on WMT and get many returns.
the buyer bought 500 Michael Kors watches,I bet you most of them can be found on various internet sales venues!
And he is interested in buying more,Cassio watches!
and what about the guy OP bought from,he is in Canada,he could be dragged into the investigation too,where did he get 500 Michael Kors and Casios watches?probably from China! |
| agent006140 | 06-19-2019 06:23 PM |
Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
Maybe TinSoldier could cough up $62k ! |
| james_112233 | 06-19-2019 06:26 PM |
Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
You're like a parrot @agent006140 you keep repeating the same points over and over again across multiple posts. We understand what you are saying, take a break.
Looking at the OPS previous posts on this forum he is clearly a VERO seller. His buyer knows exactly what he was buying but also knew he could get away with this scam all day long. |
| nickopedia | 06-19-2019 06:56 PM |
Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
I agree, something about the OP's story on those watches doesn't add up.
For high value collectibles and items of the sort, and I can tell you that that the sourcing has a definite, and easily verifiable trail. If the goods were truly legitimate, there should be no problem providing ample proof and counter this not as described charge back claim.
On the other hand, if PayPal decides this case is worth pushing after losing the charge back, the $62k might be the least of the OP's issues. PayPal might wish to involve the authorities for pursuit of a possible criminal matter if they decide fraud was involved. In that case, you will need a criminal defense attorney. This type of thing can blossom into a myriad of other issues; interstate commerce fraud, bank fraud, tax evasion, money laundering, theft by deception, etc. If the OP is in the UK, other more harsh penalties come to mind. Seek legal advise asap. |
| agent006140 | 06-19-2019 07:11 PM |
Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 1012407)
You're like a parrot @agent006140 you keep repeating the same points over and over again across multiple posts. We understand what you are saying, take a break.
Looking at the OPS previous posts on this forum he is clearly a VERO seller. His buyer knows exactly what he was buying but also knew he could get away with this scam all day long.
| you sound like a parrot too,should we get together?
The reason I repeat some of the infor is because some folks dont read the entire thread,they just jump in and say do this and do that. |
| agent006140 | 06-19-2019 07:14 PM |
Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
There you go,500 Michael Kors watches,can be traced back to the manufacturer,Call mike !
And Mr Cassio is waiting for his large order ! |
| Leader2dark | 06-19-2019 07:16 PM |
Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
Quote:
Originally Posted by nickopedia
(Post 1012412)
I agree, something about the OP's story on those watches doesn't add up.
PayPal might wish to involve the authorities for pursuit of a possible criminal matter if they decide fraud was involved. In that case, you will need a criminal defense attorney. This type of thing can blossom into a myriad of other issues; interstate commerce fraud, bank fraud, tax evasion, money laundering, theft by deception, etc. If the OP is in the UK, other more harsh penalties come to mind. Seek legal advise asap.
| Nothing more to be said here. Best advice to OP is find a good lawyer ASAP and OR make this go away as fast as possible so PayPal does not start a full-blown investigation. |
| nickopedia | 06-19-2019 08:22 PM |
Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leader2dark
(Post 1012418)
Nothing more to be said here. Best advice to OP is find a good lawyer ASAP and OR make this go away as fast as possible so PayPal does not start a full-blown investigation.
| OP, one thing you need to know is that since PayPal handles massive amounts of money that cross borders, as a money transmitter they fully cooperate with law enforcement. In fact, they have entire departments and teams set up just for this endeavor.
I am referring to PayPal's Global Investigations Team. More information here: https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/law-enforcement ** WARNING - PAYPAL LINK **
What I'm getting at here is there is more to PayPal than meets the eye. They are quite proactive in helping prosecute cases of suspected fraud if it involves their platform. It doesn't matter what country you are in since the Global Investigations Team works with law enforcement internationally.
I'm not trying to scare the OP, only stating facts. |
| agent006140 | 06-19-2019 08:30 PM |
Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
There is this Ebay seller who sells but never ship,but upload tracking.
Someone must have snitched and FBI investigates and found out he is receiving fund from foreign ISIS affiliated org to fund US OPERATIONS.
Both PAYPAL and Ebay co-oprate with FBI |
Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
Come on, guys, what did I say to lead you believe that I am selling phakes?
I did not try to scam anyone or lie to anyone here, the buyer came to me and asked me to source him branded watches, my supplier is an authorized reseller for Movado watches that's what I was selling on eBay only, I just don't have any experience with MK and Seiko watches, I bought off these watches from a guy in Canada and resell them to the buyer, I did not make much money as I just wanted to keep the business relationship with the buyer, I am not sure if they are real, so I let the buyer to find out, I have no intention to sell knockoffs to anyone, why people here are so sure about what I was selling?
Anyway, lessons learned, I want to thank you agent006140,there are lots of useful information you've provided, I will try to solve the issue with the buyer without any third party involved and I will send the update here.
Also my business partner not just let me use her information, we set up LLC in the US for PayPal sales taxes, she got 50% in eBay sales profits. |
| JamesNorth101 | 06-20-2019 04:35 AM |
Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
Quote:
Originally Posted by ray
(Post 1012517)
I am not sure if they are real, so I let the buyer to find out, I have no intention to sell knockoffs to anyone, why people here are so sure about what I was selling?
| Ignorance really isn’t a defence I’m afraid
If you sell something to someone then it’s down to you to do your due diligence |
Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
James, I agree, it's my mistake, but what about the buyer who resells the watches for over 6 months? he wanted all the money back, is it really fair? Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 1012524)
Ignorance really isn’t a defence I’m afraid
If you sell something to someone then it’s down to you to do your due diligence
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Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
I am not asking for any illegal advise, people who come to this forum for help, if you are not willing to help, that's fine, you don't know me, so stop judging someone you do not know, 'scammer' 'fraudster' 'crooks'? you've been acting like a self-appointed public avenger. I wish you never been wrong in your life. Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1012521)
I've said my bit, I believe you are a scammer who has been scammed.
I also dont think it would be wise for this forum to condone offering you any help, your posts on this forums suggests to me you're operating outside of the law.
I appreciate that this forum attracts crooks and we naively help them to create accounts. But that's where it stops, if fraud is likely then I suggest all help stops.
I believe you are a fraudster and this forum should wish you well and send you on your way.
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| agent006140 | 06-20-2019 06:47 AM |
Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1012509)
Didn't you recently promise to stop posting utter rubbish.
I'm beginning to think you're deliberately trying to disrupt this forum and need banning.
:ban?::ban?::ban?:
| when you own this board,you can tell me what to do,in the mean time,why dont you block me and take a break,make some decent money ,not nickels and dimes |
| agent006140 | 06-20-2019 06:50 AM |
Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
This is for Tin Soldier,not OP-
FBI,US customs,state,city auditors,law enforcement ,brand name manufacturers and their imitators,venue staff,its competitors all lurk on popular sites .
if you cant take the heat,.get out of the kitchen |
| phaz0rz | 06-20-2019 06:51 AM |
Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
Quote:
Originally Posted by ray
(Post 1012536)
he wanted all the money back, is it really fair?
| No.. but that's business and it sounds like this guy has a good understanding of his rights.
Maybe you should chargeback all of your purchases too. |
| agent006140 | 06-20-2019 06:53 AM |
Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1012544)
I'll judge you if I want.
I believe you are a crook who is looking for a way to recover their gains from the sale or counterfeit goods. I also have my doubts about the legality of your banking practices amongst other things.
On this basis I am happy to suggest to this forum that they give you a wide berth.
If you don't like that then take it up with your solicitor. ( that's what we call them in the UK where you claim to live)
Good luck, you're going to need it.
| Dont pay attention to Tin SOLDIER,self righteous ignorant fool! |
| garry9061 | 06-20-2019 06:53 AM |
I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
Not sure this thread is going very far anymore... |
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