PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation

[Icykid298]

Originally Posted by got2win

This is crazy, was anyone able to get their money back so far?

A person on reddit said they contacted the CEO or something and they managed to get their funds back.

[tsbk00069]

So has anyone had any success with court or a demand letter? I was new to PayPal and had only taken 4 transactions, 3 from my kids/wife and then 1 from a Kobe jersey I sold on eBay for $5700
Immediately after that eBay transaction they shut it down because that transaction was not normal for my account, even though it was eBay and they saw the item was delivered and feedback left they still kept it shut down.
Fast forward to the $ being released on 7/6 and I didn't see it til 8/8 and I log in to retrieve it only to see that the money was taken on 8/6
I have no idea what to do now

[byronius maximus]

So, after starting this thread, I haven't read all of it, but I assume folks didn't get their money. But I'm curious if they have continued confiscating funds on your other stealth accounts, or did they just do this in a wave and quit? I ask because I had other accounts get limited after this, and 180 days later I was able to get the funds.......

[ak_am]

just 2keep U up2date, guys)
as of 11 October 2020:

https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice...om_my_account/

oh,well)

[ak_am]

Originally Posted by byronius maximus

So, after starting this thread, I haven't read all of it, but I assume folks didn't get their money. But I'm curious if they have continued confiscating funds on your other stealth accounts, or did they just do this in a wave and quit? I ask because I had other accounts get limited after this, and 180 days later I was able to get the funds.......

Confusing question. What r u on about. Pp ALWAYS was comfy to keep your hard earned £££/$$$ in their pockets - give no reason - no Policy applies - RULES. I used to deal with some criminals - Trust me. PP are WORSE...much worse. oops. im v****ed..now..ip..help..Maybe shell i say Sorry. Im not intend to...blah/blah..

[ak_am]

Originally Posted by tsbk00069

So has anyone had any success with court or a demand letter? I was new to PayPal and had only taken 4 transactions, 3 from my kids/wife and then 1 from a Kobe jersey I sold on eBay for $5700
Immediately after that eBay transaction they shut it down because that transaction was not normal for my account, even though it was eBay and they saw the item was delivered and feedback left they still kept it shut down.
Fast forward to the $ being released on 7/6 and I didn't see it til 8/8 and I log in to retrieve it only to see that the money was taken on 8/6
I have no idea what to do now

yes, sure, but u have to do it your only way - to win. LET us know then.

[cs38]

Originally Posted by byronius maximus

So, after starting this thread, I haven't read all of it, but I assume folks didn't get their money. But I'm curious if they have continued confiscating funds on your other stealth accounts, or did they just do this in a wave and quit? I ask because I had other accounts get limited after this, and 180 days later I was able to get the funds.......

Paypal has cited "Acceptable Use Policy" to wipe out my account balances on December 11, 2019 and March 11, 2020 and May 8, 2020 and August 4, 2020 and August 28, 2020 so they are still doing it.

[cs38]

Originally Posted by tsbk00069

So has anyone had any success with court or a demand letter? I was new to PayPal and had only taken 4 transactions, 3 from my kids/wife and then 1 from a Kobe jersey I sold on eBay for $5700
Immediately after that eBay transaction they shut it down because that transaction was not normal for my account, even though it was eBay and they saw the item was delivered and feedback left they still kept it shut down.
Fast forward to the $ being released on 7/6 and I didn't see it til 8/8 and I log in to retrieve it only to see that the money was taken on 8/6
I have no idea what to do now

I have sent a demand letter to Paypal 5 times now throughout 2020. They have ignored them all. A large law firm told me the following:

(1) we do not write demand letters on contingency; (2) $400,000 is below our threshold for an individual lawsuit (should the demand letter fail you will need to litigate this case – which it will. Paypal does not simply roll over with a demand letter; they fight everything); (3) Paypal’s terms and conditions mandate arbitration which is a much less favorable forum for plaintiffs than court; and (4) Paypal’s terms and conditions now contain a class action waiver which means no one can bring class actions against Paypal anymore which were the only truly viable cases (financially and legally).

It is likely I need to do arbitration through ADR.org since apparently Paypal's TOS means they make the rules, even if they are unfair & illegal, cannot sue can only do arbitration.

[cs38]

Originally Posted by agent006140

PAYPAL could have linked your account with another account which owed PAYPAL money,is there anyone in your family say your spouse or ex spouse had an account with Paypal?
where does your money come from?



I wish I were a machine,I would make more money.
but thanks for the compliment,nevertheless

were you selling copyright items?
https://gbatemp.net/threads/cease-an...paypal.339398/

Under the Acceptable Use Policy, PayPal may not be used to send or receive
payments for items that infringe or violate any copyright, trademark, right
of publicity or privacy, or any other proprietary right under the laws of
any jurisdiction. This includes transactions for devices that allow
domestic video game consoles to play back-up or import versions of games,
such as mod chips, game enhancers, boot disks and methods that allow
multiple digital television receivers to access subscription television
services.

The complete Acceptable Use Policy can be found at the following URL:
https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?....locale.x=en_US

the policy is published on its site,it has nothing to with linking to another account ,BUT then,may be your brother is doing something which violates the policy??

Listen, the Acceptable Use Policy is a complete joke, & while it starts by saying common sense illegal things, it then devolves into the following vague ambiguous nonsense that could be applied to anyone " 3(d) are for the sale of certain items before the seller has control or possession of the item " which is extremely vague because which certain items?

I assume this to mean "drop shipping", but drop shipping is what many sellers on eBay have done for years with their paypal account so who knows what it really means, it can mean anything Paypal wants it to mean to steal anyone's balance at any point.

[boyldec02]

just came here new.
PP made a payment to PayPal effectively wiping my balance 12K USD.
with memo "PayPal's damages caused by AUP violation".

Please do not ever stack up PayPal balance.
Always transfer to your actual bank immediately.

They define in their User Agreement they will take action "in our sole discretion".
They vaguely define various violations.

According to their user agreement, they can do literally anything they want to do your account at any time, any actions, not even revealing what was the exact "violation".

Have fun searching "sole discretion" in this document:

WARNING PAYPAL LINK

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mp...agreement-full

This is just insane.
They are acting like a government & court & police at the same time.

In short they took my $12k without warning or proper reasons.
They are criminals.

US need to take a big action against PayPal.
Again, this, is, insane.

[bugmyday]

Originally Posted by boyldec02

just came here new.
PP made a payment to PayPal effectively wiping my balance 12K USD.

Again, this, is, insane.

oh boy that huge amount
what did you sold ?

[rsot]

Originally Posted by boyldec02

just came here new.
PP made a payment to PayPal effectively wiping my balance 12K USD.
with memo "PayPal's damages caused by AUP violation".

Please do not ever stack up PayPal balance.
Always transfer to your actual bank immediately.

They define in their User Agreement they will take action "in our sole discretion".
They vaguely define various violations.

According to their user agreement, they can do literally anything they want to do your account at any time, any actions, not even revealing what was the exact "violation".

Have fun searching "sole discretion" in this document:

WARNING PAYPAL LINK

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mp...agreement-full

This is just insane.
They are acting like a government & court & police at the same time.

In short they took my $12k without warning or proper reasons.
They are criminals.

US need to take a big action against PayPal.
Again, this, is, insane.

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[brtvrdrl]

İs there anyone who stolen money (AUP) by paypal from EUROPE Countries ? Have you ever encountered that situation happened to accounts from europe.
Thanks

[brtvrdrl]

Originally Posted by brtvrdrl

İs there anyone who stolen money (AUP) by paypal from EUROPE Countries ? Have you ever encountered that situation happened to accounts from europe.
Thanks

Are there anyone experianced same issue ?

[Halcyon1]

Originally Posted by brtvrdrl

İs there anyone who stolen money (AUP) by paypal from EUROPE Countries ? Have you ever encountered that situation happened to accounts from europe.
Thanks

I can confirm it happened for Asia accounts. It applies worldwide.

I am still not sure what causes this.

1. Permanent limitation will always show "inconsistent with AUP" on the PayPal.com website
2. Permanent limitation will always show "there was potential risk" in the PayPal.com website notifications

I think you need to paste what the email exactly told you at time of limitation.

[Vapor]

I had $90,000 taken from me. They claim I violated the AUP which I disagree with. But either way I don't know how they can legally fine us $2,500 per offense. Could they say $50,000 per offense. This doesn't seem legal.

[codebyat]

seems like paypal are doing way to becoming amzn. Take your money and if you wish to claim your money back you need to file an appeal or hire an attorney

[lvtgalaxy]

Originally Posted by byronius maximus

I had a stealth account permanently limited over 180 days ago. When I went to withdraw the funds to my bank, I see that they transferred all of my funds to themselves and this was in the notes for the transaction:

"Payment to: Paypal; PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation."

I had zero chargebacks and they didn't claim what the so-called "damages" were, they just stole my balance a week before my 180 days was up, and I received no notification.

Before I call them, for whatever good that will do, I'm asking if anyone here has any experience with this. I Googled the exact sentence "PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation" and couldn't find it, so is this new or was it just for me special? I assumed it would have happened to a lot of other folks and someone here would be mentioning it...

When your account is limited to over 180 days, does Paypal ask you to verify merchandise or address or anything else?

[djpky]

I'm new here but a victim as well. Not as much as some of you, but $5600 that I was told would be available after 6 months - to ensure no disputed transactions - then they just took it.

Has anyone had any success in retrieving their funds? How are they protected against a Class Action Suit? From everything I'm reading, it sounds like there would be a huge one justified.

[agent006140]

go to Paypal seller forum and see if it has been discussed.

[SaiJin]

Originally Posted by djpky

I'm new here but a victim as well. Not as much as some of you, but $5600 that I was told would be available after 6 months - to ensure no disputed transactions - then they just took it.

Has anyone had any success in retrieving their funds? How are they protected against a Class Action Suit? From everything I'm reading, it sounds like there would be a huge one justified.

180 days limitation regular vs AUP are 2 different things.

You seem to have gotten the regular one, so wait it out and withdraw.

[raseiro]

For all who wonder about getting the money paypal stole. Read my previous threads
1) send them a letter of intent, stating you will sue them in small claims court, explain your reasons, make a strong case, that what they are doing is illegal. which it is.
2) wait, usually after 30 days they will send you an email stating your acct has been reinstated. then they will send you another email that your balance was reinstated.
3) withdraw balance. NEVER KEEP MORE IN PAYPAL THAN YOU ARE WILLING TO LOOSE!!!
good luck