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| don toliver | 12-08-2019 12:31 PM |
Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
PayPal have recently been reporting to credit bureaus because their PayPal Credit got bought by a different company. Is it a coincidence that these cases are happening simultaneously? Perhaps because of the acquisition from the other company, they are forcefully taking money from limited accounts to offset all the losses they incurred. PayPal used to not care or do anything about it, but now that another company has their hands in it... Maybe that company is making PayPal be less lenient. |
| Wesker | 12-08-2019 06:15 PM |
Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
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Originally Posted by don toliver
(Post 1053895)
PayPal have recently been reporting to credit bureaus because their PayPal Credit got bought by a different company. Is it a coincidence that these cases are happening simultaneously? Perhaps because of the acquisition from the other company, they are forcefully taking money from limited accounts to offset all the losses they incurred. PayPal used to not care or do anything about it, but now that another company has their hands in it... Maybe that company is making PayPal be less lenient.
| September is when they started doing this.
We aren't sure yet why PayPal is doing this. Obviously something recently changed inside PayPal because they only started doing this in September per reports online. |
| Wesker | 12-08-2019 06:15 PM |
Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
Has anyone reached out to PayPal about this yet?
Has anyone got any information why PayPal did this other than the memo? |
| Wesker | 12-09-2019 08:58 AM |
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| Wesker | 12-09-2019 09:46 AM |
Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
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Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1054043)
Why are you posting them here? Nobody can help, (some of us don't care TBH), the majority of us are running stealth accounts and see paypal as a necessary evil and manage it as best we can. That's the purpose of this forum, not to go on some anti-paypal crusade using our phake ID! :laugh:
| 1. If you don't care, don't post. Problem solved. Others do especially with so much money on the line. I'm posting to build up evidence, provide feedback before we legally arbitrate a case against PayPal which is ultimately where I see this going eventually.
2. You have 0 evidence to support your claim they are running stealth accounts and I have seen no evidence that any of the accounts subject to these fines were stealth accounts. The only information we have is PayPal made these deductions because they were violations of their AUP policy.
Not sure the purpose of you posting this. Derailing the thread with negativity is all you did in your last reply. |
| Wesker | 12-09-2019 10:21 AM |
Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
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Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1054054)
Never.....gonna......happen. :lol:
I'm commenting because I dont think folk should get suckered into sharing their account details with fellow scammers. Give help and info to anonymous individuals yes, but encourage off forum pipe-dreams, sorry I wont encourage folk to do that. :thumb:
| Actually been talking to Amazon seller dispute attorneys about possibly handling this that have helped in the past with Amazon issues on our tangible businesses that we still work actively with Amazon today on. So yes pre arbitration discussions could be a route we go or at least myself if I don't go another direction. Just to be clear, I didn't mean we will take PayPal to arbitration. Obviously if I seek legal counsel over this matter we'd hope to reach a resolution with PayPal before it ever even comes close to arbitration.
Also who is asking people for account details and who are these fellow scammers? |
| Wesker | 12-09-2019 10:39 AM |
Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
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Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1054058)
(those who's screenshots you've shared without their knowledge)
| It's publically available on the paypal community websites. Why can't I screenshot it? Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1054058)
to make that meeting and cough up for legal fees.
| It's simply an idea or proposal if people want to do it. As of now, nobody seems interested except one in the United States which I contacted on the PayPal Community Website. Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1054058)
Most will be breaking paypals terms, so any brief worth their salt wont touch them, this forum is about helping them get a new start and avoiding the same mistakes.
| I don't really know what these others did. Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1054058)
If you have been wronged then take them to task, just don't look for others to share your fees.
| I believe I have been wronged. My accounts are legit with PayPal, I was never told what I breached in the 1st place since I sell hundreds of different items and services it could have been anything. They never let me withdrawal the funds and won't communicate on what this damage fine is about. I tried to appeal during the limitation and just received a generic reply. I moved on because we don't necessarily rely on PayPal for our business. Obviously extremely pissed off here with PayPal for not letting us part ways with them properly and professionally instead just taking our funds without any explanation. Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1054058)
just don't look for others to share your fees.
| I can cover it myself if need be. It's going to cost a $2.5k retainer and upwards to $10k if it goes to arbitration.
However as of now my plan is just to wait and here what others have done/did before I proceed with anything. I am in no rush to get this resolved, will handle this properly, and something I will end up pursing in 2020. |
| Wesker | 12-09-2019 10:45 AM |
Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
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Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1054065)
Anyway, good luck in getting you money back, if you ever want any help in creating a new account then you know where to come :thumb:
| Still have personal accounts open. They never closed those. If I need PayPal, I'll just use those. Only these specific business accounts were closed. |
| Augus | 12-10-2019 09:59 AM |
Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
Wesker, I actually appreciate your insights, information sharing and overall concern in this matter. As you mentioned, each case you shared with us was posted on Paypal's community forum so I don't see anything wrong with sharing those.
Ultimately, this thread is called "PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation" under the "Paypal Talk" forum, so I find it completely related and on topic.
The main purpose of this forum is to HELP. And that can be done in a lot of ways. Yours is one.
I find all the information on this thread useful and I'm using it to take (I hope) better business decisions regarding my Paypal accounts. |
| XPinksDude826 | 12-10-2019 01:54 PM |
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| BleepBloop | 12-10-2019 02:40 PM |
Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
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Originally Posted by Messy52312
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| Woah, dude. What chu done did? That is, if you're not using a stealth. |
| Wesker | 12-10-2019 05:11 PM |
Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
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Originally Posted by Messy52312
(Post 1054431)
| Can you post more information. What were you selling, why you were limited? Was your account a stealth PayPal Account? Did you contact PayPal? Says you're in Canada so I think this can conclude that it happening globally not just specific countries. https://i.imgur.com/WnVjHzg.png
Sorry for your loss. I also got hit pretty hard not as big as you. I think it's clear we have to take action. We can't just write this off as a loss. More and more people are being fined daily and this is going to start totalling into millions of USD paypal is fining people.
Attorneys would without a doubt be interested in these type of cases going on with PayPal. |
| Wesker | 12-10-2019 05:15 PM |
Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
Anyone who uses PayPal now who produce bulk sales through PayPal at any given moment could be limited due to AUP policies which are broad and could be a 1000+ different things. They never get that money back as PayPal can take anyones funds at any given moment here.
Don't think people realize PayPal can abuse this AUP fine policy and exploit people which is essentially what they're doing now. |
| Wesker | 12-10-2019 05:16 PM |
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| Wesker | 12-10-2019 05:17 PM |
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Here is another one.
His quote
In total I have spent 11 hours on call to PayPal, they also said they'd send me an email but never did..
I asked for a callback from PayPal automated service, call back came but I was put on hold by agent.
I called back and I was put on hold for multiple hours and no call back happened.
Messaged on Twitter, they said they'd send me an email, no email came now they are not replying after 1 month.
Messaged on Facebook, obviously no reply not a surprise.
Sent over 10 emails to PayPal, no reply.
Tried to talk to PayPal on live chat, no agents available. https://i.imgur.com/hk3wLus.jpg https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/...e/td-p/1974258 |
| Wesker | 12-10-2019 05:19 PM |
Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
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Originally Posted by Wesker
(Post 1054476)
Here is another one.
His quote
In total I have spent 11 hours on call to PayPal, they also said they'd send me an email but never did..
I asked for a callback from PayPal automated service, call back came but I was put on hold by agent.
I called back and I was put on hold for multiple hours and no call back happened.
Messaged on Twitter, they said they'd send me an email, no email came now they are not replying after 1 month.
Messaged on Facebook, obviously no reply not a surprise.
Sent over 10 emails to PayPal, no reply.
Tried to talk to PayPal on live chat, no agents available. https://i.imgur.com/hk3wLus.jpg https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/...e/td-p/1974258
| This guy said he made numerous attempts to contact PayPal and they won't respond so it seems contacting PayPal does nothing.
They are intentionally avoiding communicating what is going on here.
This is definitely mounting up to a potential class action lawsuit against PayPal in the long run. |
| Wesker | 12-10-2019 05:20 PM |
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| Wesker | 12-10-2019 05:22 PM |
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