Paypal Limited WTF

Imposter · #23 12-03-2014

These 2 were both current accounts, my others are attached to savers but there all still running but my others are 18 months old

Ebayorbust · #24 12-03-2014

There are loads of indicators that an account is stealth. We've always thought up until now that keeping cookies separate and using a clean IP would mean everything would be okay.

Let's face it 99% of UK stealth accounts have got Entropay, 3V or similar attached. They only need to search for accounts with about 8 different BINs and they could shut down virtually all stealth accounts across the board. There are now companies involved with Paypal that are more than capable of doing this analysis and closing such accounts.

If it was a limitation related to your transactions, they would have asked for supplier invoices, cc statements, etc, etc.

sugarlaces · #25 12-03-2014

Feel your pain truly, as ebayorbust said there is mention of these new companies in paypal terms and conditions.
As painful as it is for the hard work and effort you maintained these accounts, you may have to sit it out this peak season till someone here comes up with a long term solution.

donkeykong2012 · #26 12-03-2014

I have just got paranoid and logged into some of my accounts and all are fine

*Touchwood*

My oldest is 2 years today.

I have about 24 in total.

However I must admit they have only been lightly used.

And all have Entropay Cards attached.

Personally I don't think Entropay is the issue.

However a new way of risk profiling accounts could be the culprit.

rsot · #27 12-03-2014

Nice work so far donkeykong - good active number

donkeykong2012 · #28 12-03-2014

I am pretty stressed at the moment.

Reading stories on here reminds me of when PP locked up 12k of my cash a few years ago.

Its not worth thinking about.

Callidus · #29 12-03-2014

Quote:

Originally Posted by donkeykong2012

Reading stories on here reminds me of when PP locked up 12k of my cash a few years ago..

Ouch, that is not a good sum! Feel for you. Did you get it back?

donkeykong2012 · #30 12-03-2014

Yes I did.

At Christmas.

I cannot believe I was so naive that year.

antwest1986 · #31 12-03-2014

Is this something to do with ID's? a lot of people's accounts going down have purchased ID's, could it be that they have now able to check up driving license numbers?

Imposter · #32 12-03-2014

Update:

Just been on my other computer which had 4 accounts on which I don't use & don't have bank accounts added, I purchased these from a seller on this forum in March this year and have all been limited.

Acc info:

1.

created 20th March
came verified
Blocked 15th November
1 buyer feedback
1 sale 4 months ago

2.

created 20th March
came verified
Blocked 15th November
0 feedback
1 sale 4 months ago

3.

created 18th March
came verified
Blocked 15th November
1 buyer feedback
1 sale 4 months ago

4.

created 19th March
came verified
Blocked 15th November
1 buyer feedback
1 sale 4 months ago

How they got these I don't know but I have not even logged into these for months.

antwest1986 · #33 12-03-2014

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imposter

Update:

Just been on my other computer which had 4 accounts on which I don't use & don't have bank accounts added, I purchased these from a seller on this forum in March this year and have all been limited.

Acc info:

1.

created 20th March
came verified
Blocked 15th November
1 buyer feedback
1 sale 4 months ago

2.

created 20th March
came verified
Blocked 15th November
0 feedback
1 sale 4 months ago

3.

created 18th March
came verified
Blocked 15th November
1 buyer feedback
1 sale 4 months ago

4.

created 19th March
came verified
Blocked 15th November
1 buyer feedback
1 sale 4 months ago

How they got these I don't know but I have not even logged into these for months.

Have these all had ID'S submitted?

Imposter · #34 12-03-2014

It says they came verified when purchased so yes they will have had ID & docs sent.

Callidus · #35 12-03-2014

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imposter

It says they came verified when purchased so yes they will have had ID & docs sent.

Verified or limits removed? Lets clarify.....

Verified is bank verified, doesn't mean docs have been sent...

Imposter · #36 12-03-2014

Sorry limits removed, there are no bank acc. added to any of them.

donkeykong2012 · #37 12-03-2014

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imposter

Update:

Just been on my other computer which had 4 accounts on which I don't use & don't have bank accounts added, I purchased these from a seller on this forum in March this year and have all been limited.

Acc info:

1.

created 20th March
came verified
Blocked 15th November
1 buyer feedback
1 sale 4 months ago

2.

created 20th March
came verified
Blocked 15th November
0 feedback
1 sale 4 months ago

3.

created 18th March
came verified
Blocked 15th November
1 buyer feedback
1 sale 4 months ago

4.

created 19th March
came verified
Blocked 15th November
1 buyer feedback
1 sale 4 months ago

How they got these I don't know but I have not even logged into these for months.

Can you clarify please.

You mean purchased not created as you bought them.
How did you know the date blocked if you have not logged into them for months? Did you receive an email?

The little or no feedback is interesting indicating hardly any trading history.

Accounts may have been linked to account creation times, traced back to mass production within narrow timescales from a particular seller.

Imposter · #38 12-03-2014

Quote:

Originally Posted by donkeykong2012

Can you clarify please.

You mean purchased not created as you bought them.
How did you know the date blocked if you have not logged into them for months? Did you receive an email?

The little or no feedback is interesting indicating hardly any trading history.

Accounts may have been linked to account creation times, traced back to mass production within narrow timescales from a particular seller.

The first line says:

'Just been on my other computer which had 4 accounts on'

Meaning I've just logged on to check them.

donkeykong2012 · #39 12-03-2014

It just occurred to me.

This is almost like a cancer spreading.

Say they recheck ID as some are saying with their new friends systems.

They decide one is phony on their new system.

They will then attempt to link that account to others by any means possible.

Including to those mass produced at roughly the same time.

Their way of thinking is:

If they are pretty sure one is bogus, other accounts that appear at roughly the same time with similar traits are also bogus.

donkeykong2012 · #40 12-03-2014

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imposter

The first line says:

'Just been on my other computer which had 4 accounts on'

Meaning I've just logged on to check them.

You quote 4 were blocked on the 15th of November yet you only logged into them today?

Please clarify.

Imposter · #41 12-03-2014

Quote:

Originally Posted by donkeykong2012

You quote 4 were blocked on the 15th of November yet you only logged into them today?

Please clarify.

Yes, like I said I don't use them, they were just reserve acc.

donkeykong2012 · #42 12-03-2014

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imposter

Yes, like I said I don't use them, they were just reserve acc.

I know.

My question was how do you know they were blocked on the 15th of November when you only logged into them today?

It doesn't make sense.

Imposter · #43 12-03-2014

Quote:

Originally Posted by donkeykong2012

It just occurred to me.

This is almost like a cancer spreading.

This is worse than cancer this is the plague

Imposter · #44 12-03-2014

Quote:

Originally Posted by donkeykong2012

I know.

My question was how do you know they were blocked on the 15th of November when you only logged into them today?

It doesn't make sense.

Because I checked the limitation details, when you click 'why' your account was limited it states it there.

BTW I didn't get an email from PP they were just limited when I logged in.