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O hai.


Before my account got suspended back in November, I always had it in my mind that I want to turn my bedroom operation to ltd. company and take things up a notch, regarding the business.
Then the suspension came and everything slowed down for a bit because I didn't know how to get my business going again.

Now that I've read about stealth for a while and created few accounts, I realise that I still want to grow my business, under my own name!

Regarding ltd. in UK, how does it exactly work?
Clearly I can't use my own name, but when I register ltd it's a company and I'd register under company details, not my own, right?
I can still receive money under business name, rent premises under business name and have it umbrella me with it's name.

Am I right to think that I could return to eBay with ltd company?

Many thanks guys and gals, I appreciate it.
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O hai.


Before my account got suspended back in November, I always had it in my mind that I want to turn my bedroom operation to ltd. company and take things up a notch, regarding the business.
Then the suspension came and everything slowed down for a bit because I didn't know how to get my business going again.

Now that I've read about stealth for a while and created few accounts, I realise that I still want to grow my business, under my own name!

Regarding ltd. in UK, how does it exactly work?
Clearly I can't use my own name, but when I register ltd it's a company and I'd register under company details, not my own, right?
I can still receive money under business name, rent premises under business name and have it umbrella me with it's name.

Am I right to think that I could return to eBay with ltd company?

Many thanks guys and gals, I appreciate it.
Its a very complicated that you would put yourself in if you did go ahead with that, as one point in stealth is to be "cautious in every movement you make" and in simple terms not to be caught out.

You have already been suspended in the past so using your own name once again on ebay would be a big no no , as you already know.

the ltd company could be made and registered to the company House within the UK and then you may use a trading Name (the name you desire) and use this name on ebay, how ever this may be risky for you in the future and i say this because

:YOUR TRUE NAME and Information is on the COMPANY HOUSE REGISTER therefore whose to say a competitor of yours who could report you for what ever reason i.e. and then ebay investigate matters and find your real name etc on company or worse of still your competitor could go ahead and do so.

once the real details are revealed then you will once again be hit with another suspension then back to square 1.

there are many benefits of having LTD company vs a sole trader, but one problem lies with you is that your real information is there for the public to see on Company House


There are many suspended users on here who have created multiple accounts and have become successful users when selling on ebay in regions four figure sums a week or month etc...

as long as you stick to stealth and make profits then you will be fine, how ever with profits comes tax so depending on what you sell , if its personal possessions then its no problem but if you plan on making a business , then class yourself as Self-Employed, go ahead and check the UK HMRC self employed information on tax etc.. just so you know what to do when you hit them figures.

as for Ltd company you can do this and there are benefits i am not saying you cant but perhaps suggesting a different directors name some one personal to you just so there is no link yourself if in doubt someone does research on you, that way you have a win win situation.

personally myself I would not, I would only consider the thought of LTD company if my profits were Very HIGH and then Ltd company would come into action , Higher my profits then Higher my savings in terms of paying tax vs profit.

if you have good niche product for ebay purposes and you have proven this before on ebay in the past, then i would suggest to get someone to review your circumstances and work out a specific projection for you. And if the decision lies with LTD company then consider a close person who can director for you on this company , but remember and set a clause to make sure that you are the member that owns that company. Ok.

hopefully this gives you a bit of insight i would do a bit more research into it and the sums you need to make before registering etc... and the benefits of LTD in terms of business and to eBay ok before a decision is made.

hopefully this helps you

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Now that I've read about stealth for a while and created few accounts, I realise that I still want to grow my business, under my own name!
Its not going to be a stealth account if it is under your own name.

Any account you open using your own details will get linked sooner or later.
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Its not going to be a stealth account if it is under your own name.

Any account you open using your own details will get linked sooner or later.
I know that I will never be able to use my own name again in eBay but by "by my own name" I meant being the owner of ltd.
Thanks for the feedback regarding the ltd. I appreciate it.

I guess I'll keep the stealth going and see how it all "feels" like and how my cash flow is and if it's a success then I guess I don't have a REAL need for an ltd.
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Don't rely just on one stealth account...spread and build
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I know that I will never be able to use my own name again in eBay but by "by my own name" I meant being the owner of ltd.
Thanks for the feedback regarding the ltd. I appreciate it.

I guess I'll keep the stealth going and see how it all "feels" like and how my cash flow is and if it's a success then I guess I don't have a REAL need for an ltd.
Good Luck on your journey haidukk !!
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I know that I will never be able to use my own name again in eBay but by "by my own name" I meant being the owner of ltd.
Thanks for the feedback regarding the ltd. I appreciate it.

I guess I'll keep the stealth going and see how it all "feels" like and how my cash flow is and if it's a success then I guess I don't have a REAL need for an ltd.
What's this hangup with Ltd Company status Haidukk! People have very very successful eBay businesses that they find when they arrive at that point are enough for them, but you have to to get to that point first! You don't know how far you can you can go yet with your eBay/PayPal businesses, keeping going forward and not getting suspended is enough for most people especially this year in the UK, concentrate on that for the foreseeable future.
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Right, time has passed and I'm more comfortable with stealth as each day passes. Currently I run multiple stealth accounts without any problems and I've not had any slip ups, knock wood.
I've registered myself as Sole trader already anyway, because I want to pay tax and it's a basic thing every human should do- Not rocket science.

Now I still keep coming back to the idea of Ltd. because I'd like to run my personal stealth accounts as they are but I still have a lot of stock and proven track record when it comes to my products and cash flow. This year I will be hitting higher profits so I feel a need to run part of my stealth as Ltd. with higher sales.
The basic reason behind it is the fact that I'm growing and I'm not talking about earning £100 more a month, I'm talking £70k+ a year in profits so I just want to split my personal operations and professional operations.

The question is still the same- Can I register Ltd. and own the company alone, register eBay account with "trading name" and only risk that my information is available at companies house register- Surely it's only my competitors who can check this and eBay wouldn't go into that much trouble? I can't imagine a Philipino kid doing research on me, just to shut down my account.

OR

Do I need to find somebody who will be director so that they will have their name up there, but I'm lurking in the background like a creep?

As you can see, I'm not very familiar with stealth and eBay when it comes to Ltd.
It's rather easy to have personal stealths running, doing small(ish) volumes, but I desire an ltd. that I can run for years because "it's legit"

How can I solve this?
Obviously if you don't want to share personal details, operations, thought and current setups with the public, you are more than welcome to PM me.

ANY ideas, help and general thoughts will be much appreciated.
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Default Re: Question regarding Ltd. in UK

I would not start guessing what eBay will and will not do.

A lot of eBay UK operations are in Ireland, not the Philippines
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Why not just register a company, use stealth business accounts, print from PayPal all your transaction history and file your tax returns.......

Why the need to make it confusing?
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Why not just register a company, use stealth business accounts, print from PayPal all your transaction history and file your tax returns.......

Why the need to make it confusing?
I've thought of that as well. That's possibly the easy way of doing it, without having anything on my own name.
Probably makes most sense, in terms of being stealth but then I won't have anything to my own name- Now that I think about it, I think my "need" for a ltd. is more of a need to have my own name back on eBay, in some ways.

I might have to go with the Business Accounts, that seems to be less of a hassle and produces the same result.
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There is no need to be using your own name, that's why this forum is here to get people back onto eBay without using their own name
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There is no need to be using your own name, that's why this forum is here to get people back onto eBay without using their own name
I know, I truly undrstand the concept and the need... But I miss being me when it comes to business- I hate being Joe Blow and Jake the Snake.
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