Banned as a Buyer? Will too many return requests as a buyer get you in trouble?

[james_112233]

The issue isn't so much about opening cases. The issue is will these sellers report you to ebay after issueing that refund for being a nuisance buyer i.e. returning items with missing parts or not in it's original condition etc. Annoyed, angry sellers will most definitely do it.

All those reports add up until trust & safety one day review your account and decide to ban you. Or it may even trigger a bot to ban you.

[agent006140]

Originally Posted by ebabe

If your having so many problems with buying online because your expectations are to the moon, then buy from a brick and mortar high street shop where you will spend 2-3 as much.

then he will lose money reselling them on Ebay !!!!!!!!

[agent006140]

As I get more practise I will hopefully notice warning signs of seller bull**** and keep the number of cases opened low.
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When one is bottom fishing on flea bay,may I suggest you ask questions before you pull your trigger,most sellers are jack of all trade,they could miss some minor flaws or their standard is lower than yours.

[fernendo]

Originally Posted by agent006140

then he will lose money reselling them on Ebay !!!!!!!!

Correction I don't resell the items I buy on ebay. I think we are in the "make an assumption" section of the forum.

[fernendo]

Originally Posted by agent006140

As I get more practise I will hopefully notice warning signs of seller bull**** and keep the number of cases opened low.
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When one is bottom fishing on flea bay,may I suggest you ask questions before you pull your trigger,most sellers are jack of all trade,they could miss some minor flaws or their standard is lower than yours.

Of course I ask questions before buying if anything is unclear I never said I didn't

[fernendo]

Originally Posted by tinsoldier

This is how their lowbrow business model works, have higher standards of expectation when buying but lower standards when selling. That where they get their financial edge from.

You can be absolutely sure they do not have the same script if one of their buyers makes a similar observation.

I do have the same script actually. In fact my buyers are sent the phone before they pay and if they don't like it can they return it to me without any payment required.

[prodigyace]

Some people on here are negative Nancy's, just ignore them if they have nothing positive to add.

Like i said, if you're doing what you said, then I hear you but keep the returns low as possible

[fernendo]

Originally Posted by prodigyace

Some people on here are negative Nancy's, just ignore them if they have nothing positive to add.

Like i said, if you're doing what you said, then I hear you but keep the returns low as possible

Thanks prodigyace that's very wise advise. Yes unfortunately forums like this always have a percentage of users that are trolls or bitter if they hear about people making money or having success.

It's sad that they have been treated so badly by a small number of buyers that they hate all of them and tie them with the same brush.

I will try to ignore them

[DarkKnight17]

This thread is GOLD

[agent006140]

Originally Posted by fernendo

Of course I ask questions before buying if anything is unclear I never said I didn't

if you asked,and found out it aint so,then they deserve the outcome

[rsot]

Originally Posted by DarkKnight17

This thread is GOLD

Good times

[fernendo]

Originally Posted by DarkKnight17

This thread is GOLD

Glad you like it mate lol. I think I've put a drop of blood into a barrel of piranhas.

It's much better to see the funny side rather than get angry.

[fernendo]

Originally Posted by agent006140

if you asked,and found out it aint so,then they deserve the outcome

Exactly. Or if auction says opened never used and it was used. Or if auction says Excellent condition and it's cracked but photos and description don't mention this etc etc etc.

I estimate I have currently have a problem with roughly about 1 in 12 purchases so most are ok but there are some bad apples. Like I said before the more I do it the more I will hopefully be able to guess which sellers are bull****ting / incompetent.

One example is a phone that appeared on first sight to be in great condition but in fact had a crack hidden by it's case. Either the seller genuinely didn't know it was cracked or was trying to hide it but either way that's lying / negligence not to check it before listing.

[quizmaniac]

Its true you have had some negative comments but you have asked for few .in your first post you say the phones you buy are OFTEN not as described and as a result you have to open a LOT of return cases,now your saying roughly 1 in 12 so most are ok.

You must have a good outlet to buy that many phones and not resell them on ebay so fair play .

[agent006140]

I dont think OP said he open return cases with Ebay,he just emailed sellers and negotiate a lower price.
Most Ebay sellers are pushovers,they will offer a partial refund ,if not ,OP could open a case of INAD and make seller takes it back and pay return shipping.

[agent006140]

where did OP say he resells these phone off internet?

[dishmachine]

Probably Gumtree or similar. Apparently we’re jealous because he is making money. He’d be drying his eyes if he saw many of our turnover figures.

[fernendo]

Originally Posted by dishmachine

Probably Gumtree or similar. Apparently we’re jealous because he is making money. He’d be drying his eyes if he saw many of our turnover figures.

Turnover isn't profit you could have 2 billion pound turnover and no profit. But I'm sure you are no doubt the worlds best ebay seller which is why you have to brag about it on this forum and we all congratulate you for it.

I know you aren't making any money because if you were you wouldn't be so butt hurt by a few returns. I get returns all the time but I don't give a ****.

I rekon dishmachines day job is a dish washer. Don't give up your day job mate your profit margins on ebay are so thin the returns will bankrupt you if you do.

[fernendo]

Originally Posted by agent006140

where did OP say he resells these phone off internet?

I didn't say. I sell them to companies that purchase electronics (I don't put put them back on ebay that was one of many assumptions made in this thread)

[fernendo]

Originally Posted by dishmachine

Probably Gumtree or similar. Apparently we’re jealous because he is making money. He’d be drying his eyes if he saw many of our turnover figures.

Nope not gumtree or similar guess again.

[fernendo]

Originally Posted by tinsoldier

He’s a bull$hitter. He claims to negotiate with the sellers to avoid issues but there’s clearly those who won’t play his little game and so he goes to dispute. Now it’s hopefully going to backfire.

You are also right about him not selling online, more bollocks.

Cherry picking those posters who say what he wants to hear is also a giveaway that they operate double standards as a buyer compared to a seller.

The final give away of the serial scammer is their need to return to threads and defend themselves whenever a negative post is made. They are uncomfortable with the truth, even on an anonymous forum.

Watch, they’ll reply....

Actually scammers take your money and then block you they don't sit around to discuss the price of fish and they don't give a **** about justifying their actions as all they want is money.

I don't sell in online marketplaces I sell to private companies. If you don't believe me I couldn't give 2 ****s. Yeah you're right I must be bull****ting we all know it's impossible to sell anywhere other than online marketplaces.

I cherry pick posters that actually have useful input. If you don't like what I'm doing maybe don't comment? Commenting on a topic with nothing useful to add is the definition of a troll. They often won't even bother reading a reply they will skip over it and call it "tosh" because it's all about trolling not about facts and truth. I'm breaking the golden rule of don't feed the trolls.

You don't see me jumping on threads saying "oh hi I hate this thread it's tosh it's all bull****" because I have better things to do with my time.

The final giveaway of internet trolls is they will always defend their position no matter how weak or without evidence it gets. Watch they'll reply.

[agent006140]

well,good for you,if you have companies who will buy from you,sounds like a lucrative business.
they will resell them to buyers who then sell them on their website or ebay .
if you know what you are doing,you can do quite well buying on ebay and reselling them on ebay or other sites or in your own brick and mortar stores.
I know a guy who buys watches on EBay,character watches like Mickey Mouse watch,fit it with a brand new leather band from ALiexpress and resell them to parents who want to give their kids a MICKEY Mouse watch.