How is this seller NOT in trouble?

[frksmth]

Not entirely sure what OP intended to resolve by starting this thread but the thread is getting more and more interesting. Entertainment!

[Baller12]

Originally Posted by Retailer77

There is a seller that goes by the name of "ryxxs_xxxs," he is selling all his smartphones (apple mostly) in the "New" category. His sales are very strong.
His feedback is nearly 18,000.

Here is the description for ebays "new" items:
New: A brand-new, unused, unopened, undamaged item in its original packaging (where packaging is applicable). Packaging should be the same as what is found in a retail store, unless the item is handmade or was packaged by the manufacturer in non-retail packaging, such as an unprinted box or plastic bag. See the seller's listing for full details

When you scroll down to the sellers description it states the following:
Brand New Unused With Open Generic Box,
9/10 Condition


...not adding up

I'm assuming you are on your original PayPal account, have only 1 PayPal/eBay, haven't evaded eBay/PayPal by creating new "stealth" accounts to get away from old banned accounts... as well as not using any aliases, addresses that you do not own or live in.... any of those things..
If you aren't congrats, I'd say you have the merit to call eBay and waste your time.
But since you are on this forum, I assume you aren't playing by the rules of eBay/PayPal either....

[outdoorsygal]

Originally Posted by Retailer77

EXACTLY...HE SHOULD BE HELD TO THE SAME RULES AS EVERYONE ELSE...this is my point....thank you.

I once had a glitch in my ebay account which took two months for ebay staff to fix. Don't assume the worst just because you come here incognito planning to scheme Don't pretend otherwise, you've just shown that mentality.

Doesn't mean everyone does, nor does it mean if they do scheme, it is our business to control them. No one is perfect

[outdoorsygal]

Originally Posted by yaBeh8ater

an angle? so was it an obtuse or acute?

Sounds more like a fairy to me...

[TOOKNAPA]

Originally Posted by mao

someone post the urban dictionary defintion of treads again please

Why don''t you do if you know it ?

I'm sorry not be native english speaker and i probably speak more languages than you, but yes, sorry i don't know urban dictionary ...

[dallis]

If you used a phone number attached to your account, they know who you are.

They're not going to 'investigate' anyone, they just told you that to get you off the phone.

You know it's pretty common to look over the whiner crybaby, er, I mean caller to see what they're doing wrong. 'Takes one to know one'.

[Retailer77]

Originally Posted by dallis

If you used a phone number attached to your account, they know who you are.

They're not going to 'investigate' anyone, they just told you that to get you off the phone.

You know it's pretty common to look over the whiner crybaby, er, I mean caller to see what they're doing wrong. 'Takes one to know one'.

That makes perfect logical sense

[EWHendo]

I'm really trying to get that iPhone dude, what's your user name?

[MM78]

Originally Posted by EWHendo

I'm really trying to get that iPhone dude, what's your user name?

Yeah....what's your user name, I need one too!

[newjerseymax]

Wow just wow! Let the person be and focus on his own business. So petty and jealous... You are mad cause his system is better then yours. His customers are happy and that is what counts. This type of petty reporting is what makes real reported issues fall aside, because ebay has to deal with these junk reports.

I hardly ever respond to these kind of post since 2009 of being on this site. This might be the worst post I have seen since then.

Just wow!!!

[Othmane]

I'd rather focus my Selling accounts not other, and especially not report them to eBay

[kingdomcome84]

I didn't read all pages but I did read that you reported you competitor for bending rules. Being reported on is one of the few reason why some sellers are stealthiers now and what you did is breaking the stealth code. A few comments I read some took it personal and I can see every single reason why they did.

Very sad indeed

[yankee]

Originally Posted by oompaloompa

he did not actually agree with you too much, but at least you found one reply you liked...start to get upset if people do not agree with you, little baby....

Nearly all threads from OP are like this. Hard learner for sure

[yankee]

Originally Posted by Retailer77

I hear what your saying, and respect it.
It's just such a fine line to play with ebay and I would rather play it safe and list honestly than risk my account going down by false advertising you know?

Sounds like the seller is smart and offers excellent product and service and has created an asset to ebay. Why do you fee the seller is risking anything?

You lost me with this whole thread.

You just sound jealous and instead of learning, down others for being successful.

In the long run, that makes you a failure instead of a winner. Figure out what works and do that. Stop comparing yourself to others but learn from other more successful people.

[chicagoIL]

I sell on ebay and never list something as 'mint' or a grade 10 on a 1-10 scale.
My opinion of 'mint' is different from someone else's and I have gotten
in trouble with buyers who expect something to look like it just came off
the assembly line or directly from the printer. I found it easier to describe something
as 'new' but might have minor shelf wear. This has eliminated that issue. I now
get a lot of feedback that states 'better than described'. That's a lot better
than someone being upset that it's not perfect. That could be what the seller
is trying to do too.

Honestly, I see sellers with horrible feedback. Tons of negatives and neutrals.
Horrible comments in feedback. They sell such a huge quantity that it doesn't
affect their seller status so ebay doesn't care. It's all about percentages.

[Retailer77]

Originally Posted by yankee

Sounds like the seller is smart and offers excellent product and service and has created an asset to ebay. Why do you fee the seller is risking anything?

You lost me with this whole thread.

You just sound jealous and instead of learning, down others for being successful.

In the long run, that makes you a failure instead of a winner. Figure out what works and do that. Stop comparing yourself to others but learn from other more successful people.

No offense..but you seem to have missed the point of this thread.

My initial post was regarding the fact that this seller can get away with listing an item that is clearly NOT new, which states this in his own description, yet the item is listed as NEW.
Its pretty clear that this would be considered false advertising. (duh)
I am not jealous..why would I be jealous when I can simply do the same thing the seller is doing?
My point was simply that it is frustrating when ebay does not enforce its OWN RULES, why even have separate category condition listings if thats the case?
I did not report the seller out of "evil" intention, I simply stated that I was confused on ebays rules and that I was not aware posting an item that did not abide by ebays condition description is permitted.

[Retailer77]

Originally Posted by Retailer77

No offense..but you seem to have missed the point of this thread.

My initial post was regarding the fact that this seller can get away with listing an item that is clearly NOT new, which states this in his own description, yet the item is listed as NEW.
Its pretty clear that this would be considered false advertising. (duh)
I am not jealous..why would I be jealous when I can simply do the same thing the seller is doing?
My point was simply that it is frustrating when ebay does not enforce its OWN RULES, why even have separate category condition listings if thats the case?
I did not report the seller out of "evil" intention, I simply stated that I was confused on ebays rules and that I was not aware posting an item that did not abide by ebays condition description is permitted.

And the analogy you gave of "following others who are successful" may sound nice, but if others are successful selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ items, does that mean you should go ahead and follow them despite the fact that what they are doing is illegal? If course not.

Its pretty incredible how everyones ripping on me when I am the honest one trying to list my items EXACTLY as they are, instead of misleading the customer with two different descriptions as the seller I described is doing.

And just to be clear, I called ebay and asked if what the seller is doing is legitimate or not because I was confused and thought an item that was not sealed in original packaging and that comes in a generic OPEN box could not be sold under "new" as per ebays description of "new."

In which case the rep clearly stated to me that it is not and that it was not allowed, and that he would investigate the seller, and I simply stated "ok" because I believe the seller should be notified.

What I did was completely reasonable..say what you want.

[frksmth]

Originally Posted by Retailer77

No offense..but you seem to have missed the point of this thread.

Mate, the buyers seem to be very much satisfied with the condition of the phone which is probably an indication the phone is new/ brand new anyway. You're just getting upset because of a technicality that the seller mentioned that the phone case is open. I would probably do the same as this seller, and I probably have done it in the past. No issues.

Buyers aren't bothered and eBay isn't bothered because the buyers are happy; so you shouldn't really be bothered either. Unless the seller is committing some heinous crime, I would suggest not being bothered by it and either learn from that seller OR just let it go.

Live and let live...

[Retailer77]

Originally Posted by frksmth

Mate, the buyers seem to be very much satisfied with the condition of the phone which is probably an indication the phone is new/ brand new anyway. You're just getting upset because of a technicality that the seller mentioned that the phone case is open. I would probably do the same as this seller, and I probably have done it in the past. No issues.

Buyers aren't bothered and eBay isn't bothered because the buyers are happy; so you shouldn't really be bothered either. Unless the seller is committing some heinous crime, I would suggest not being bothered by it and either learn from that seller OR just let it go.

Live and let live...

I do agree with you that I will just start doing the same thing, as ebay does not seem care anyway.

[thready]

Originally Posted by Retailer77

I do agree with you that I will just start doing the same thing, as ebay does not seem care anyway.

There you go. Its finally starting to sink in. Keep it up buddy. Keep in mind timing is important.

[yankee]

I did not miss the point. You are missing OUR points.

WHO CARES?

Learn to do the same or get left behind. That is how business works. Rules are made to be broken and manipulated.

Fair? What the hell is that and when did it start?

[EWHendo]

So dude... I'm trying to buy from you. What's your user name?