| |  | | | Vicvelcro | 08-01-2009 12:57 AM | How to change IP address if you have a ROUTER and a CABLE MODEM To begin with, this applies to cable modems connected via the ethernet port to a router.
DOES NOT APPLY TO USB CONNECTIONS. DOES NOT APPLY TO MODEM CONNECTED DIRECT TO NETWORK ADAPTER.
If you plug your modem into your PC via USB, stop doing that. You lose speed and you give away secrets.
Your cable modem gets IP based on the MAC of what it is connected TO, not the MAC of the modem itself.
If your ISP has assigned you a STATIC IP address, you're stuck with it. It's not common for them to do that, though.
If you are looking for the walkthrough for Cable Modem Connected directly to NIC: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-tr...-your-nic.html
[begin modem/router]
01a. Goto IP Chicken - Whats my IP address? ip address lookup and write your current ip address down.
02a. Change the MAC ID for the ROUTER.
02b. Open your browser and enter the information to access the web-setup to your router (usually http://192.168.1.1)
You can find this in your router manual or by viewing the status of your ethernet. It is your default gateway.
02c. You may get a popup asking for login name and password. If you didn't change it, try admin admin or admin and blank.
Different routers have different factory default login/password. Google 'router default password <your brand>'.
03a. Look around in the setup for the option for MAC address. Some routers have many MAC addresses. you need WAN MAC.
If you only find one MAC setting, obviously that's the one you want.
04a. Do NOT choose to clone any MAC already in your system. Change the numbers in the last 2 pairs as you wish.
MAC is in this format - xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx - and the first 4 sets need to stay as they are. The last pairs change.
You can make those any hex numbers between 00-FF. Set this manually. Don't CLONE anything.
05a. After you change, you need to save the settings. So click save.
06a. You can either reboot the router or you can Release DHCP then Renew DHCP from the router, if you see the option.
07a. Regardless of what you did for 06a, unplug and replug your MODEM while the router is still doing it's thing.
08a. Goto IP Chicken - Whats my IP address? ip address lookup and compare it to what you got from 01a. It should be different.
If it is still the same, either you missed a step or your IP is STATIC.
[end modem/router]
NOTES:
001 You can go back to a previous IP by changing your MAC back to what it was for that IP, up to a point. After a few hours, you can't get it back. Some ISPs hold it in reserve for 24 hours. Some for 1 hour. Orion has a great thread going for this. See http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-tr...d-numbers.html
002 Different routers put the MAC on different pages. It's in there somewhere.
003 Every network device has a MAC address. Do not set the router MAC to be identical to any other MAC in your system. You will get collisions which may freeze your system or may cause your modem to go into a reboot loop. It's very annoying. It may lock you out of your router.
004 For DSL, go see ebayhateluv's excellent thread here http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-tr...p-address.html |
| aspkin | 08-01-2009 01:08 AM | Good guide Vic, simple and to the point.
Thanks! |
| doughboykilla | 08-01-2009 01:27 AM | Why is it that u can only change the last pair of numbers? I watched a howto video on youtube and they said the same thing. I my self have changed all the numbers like i got 02:01:A3:4D:FC:B1 i will change it to like 04:01:01:01:01:01 and it works fine i get a new ip address. I know the first 2 digits has to be even #'s like 2-4-6-8 but the others can be anything from 1-9 and a-f.
I was even able to change my ip before and got a ip from another state i dont know how but i did it showed i was like 500 miles from my hometown :) |
| Vicvelcro | 08-01-2009 01:44 AM | The first 4 sets identify the brand and model and version of the unit. If you pick random numbers and the first 4 sets don't match real equipment, they may boot you for being 'shifty'.
For instance, all netgear wg111v2 wireless usb adapters begin with 01:14:6c:xx:xx:xx - the xx right after 6c is related to manufacture date and IS a specific range.
So, leave the first xx:xx:xx:xx alone. |
| Werfella | 08-01-2009 06:57 PM | Thanks vic helps a lot way better than using dial-up |
| BiN4RY | 08-01-2009 07:20 PM | Very useful, thanks |
May the Force be with You my Wise Jedi! |
| Vicvelcro | 08-16-2009 08:28 AM | Have a video to go with that Take note that neither the router nor the modem were rebooted, yet a new IP was obtained. If done at normal speed without tutorial slowness, total time involved is 20 seconds. All steps from post one were followed except reboot.
doughboykilla might be liking that part.
For more information about the first half of the MAC address, follow the next link: IEEE Registration Authority - IEEE OUI and Company_id Assignments |
| SevnSins | 08-25-2009 10:03 PM | Thanks Vic.
I've been wearing the hell out of my G1 internet connection, so I could have a dynamic gateway. This works PERFECTLY. 3 new IPs in less than a minute.
:hail: |
| surcerouche | 09-15-2009 09:06 AM | IP Question I have two computers hooked up through a netgear router into the comcast modem. I checked and they both have the same ip address on Ipburger.
If I connect one directly to the modem, will that give me two different ip addresses? |
| bluemoon999 | 09-15-2009 09:35 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by surcerouche
(Post 103994)
If I connect one directly to the modem, will that give me two different ip addresses? | - You will still need to manipulate MAC addresses to get different IPs for different computers.
You will get the same external IP address when both computers turned on & hook to the same Router because DHCP assigns IPs based on Router's data. Router can hold one Mac address only. That's why you get same IP on both computers.
If you want to get a different IP for the 2nd computer, you will need to turn the 1st computer off or just don't use it to access ebay/paypal stuff, change the NIC MAC on the 2nd computer, clone it to the Router, reboot modem, it'll get a different IP.
Do the same step for the 1st computer if you ready to switch back to the other one.
The other alternative way is to use separate modems for different computers. :ranger: |
| surcerouche | 09-15-2009 11:39 AM | Blue moon,
You are so helpful and your replies are always informative, please induldge me once more. I am a mom...no where near a techie, how (in layman's terms) can I
"change the NIC MAC on the 2nd computer, clone it to the Router" or can you send me the link.
I want to get back on ebay and amazon (after reading the stealth book, I am amped and ready to go,) however, I am stuck at the IP address part. I am thinking of just ordering a new (this will be my third) computer, or chucking it all and getting AOL.
Please help. =O) |
| bluemoon999 | 09-15-2009 12:00 PM | surcerouche, send you a PM. |
| Vicvelcro | 09-15-2009 04:46 PM | Some modems can provide 2 IP addresses.
For devices that are capable: If there is a USB port on the modem itself, plug one PC into the USB socket of the modem. It will get an IP address. Then plug the modem to the router via ethernet as you normally would. The router-modem connection will give your other PC an IP address.
If your modem does not support this, you would need a different modem which does. |
| surcerouche | 09-16-2009 08:16 AM | VicVelcro,
Thanks for that. As soon as I get home I will check my modem to see if that is possible. Before I left for work this morning, I checked the back of my router and went to the http://www.router place. I inputted my password and user name. The Firmware upgrade assistant asked me if I wanted to upgrade. I clicked the download button, but it took so long to download I would have been late to work. When I return home, I will do it again. Is that correct, should I have downloaded the upgrade and if so, what do I need to do after that. Any assistance would be great, as I stated previously, I am ready to get my -----accounts up and running but this IP/Mac stuff is the only thing stopping me and its like a thorn in my side.:pout: |
| CLIVEP | 10-05-2009 08:50 PM | Vic, I have a question. I checked my IP address on ipchicken and by using the CMD program "ipconfig" in MS DOS. I released my IP on my Verizon ActionTec router by releasing the IP ( http://192.168.1.1) . my ipaddress in ipchicken has changed but still shows the same in the DOS command ipconfig. Is this safe to use ? |
| Vicvelcro | 10-06-2009 11:45 PM | ipconfig tells you your local ethernet LAN IP. ipchicken tells you your internet IP (called WAN). ipchicken is the one you want to worry about. Your LAN IP doesn't matter, just your WAN.
Thus, from your above info, you are fine. |
| Vicvelcro | 10-06-2009 11:48 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by surcerouche
(Post 104137)
Before I left for work this morning, I checked the back of my router and went to the http://www.router place. I inputted my password and user name. The Firmware upgrade assistant asked me if I wanted to upgrade. I clicked the download button, but it took so long to download I would have been late to work. When I return home, I will do it again. Is that correct, should I have downloaded the upgrade and if so, what do I need to do after that. Any assistance would be great, as I stated previously, I am ready to get my -----accounts up and running but this IP/Mac stuff is the only thing stopping me and its like a thorn in my side.:pout: | Unless your router was malfunctioning, I wouldn't bother with the upgrade. It's probably fine to get it though. I've only had one auto-update that made things worse... |
| bigmac | 01-17-2010 11:58 PM | I need some help if i have multiple wireless routers does each one have its own ip? |
| Cachufleta | 01-18-2010 12:54 AM | Hey Powder, is there a way to do all this remotely? By operating the routers admin page from other comp. I know you have to reset the modem. But could be a workaround to change ip without physicall access to modem/router? Would be neat..... |
| SevnSins | 01-18-2010 09:05 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by bigmac
(Post 120284)
I need some help if i have multiple wireless routers does each one have its own ip? | If they are all hooked up to the same modem at the same time, the WAN IP addresses will be the same. Although; if you connect 1 router to the modem at a time, you will have a unique IP for each router.
Example: - Router #1: 192.168.1.2
- Router #2: 192.168.1.4
- Router #3: 192.168.1.6
- Router #4: 192.168.1.8
|
| SevnSins | 01-18-2010 09:11 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Cachufleta
(Post 120290)
Hey Powder, is there a way to do all this remotely? By operating the routers admin page from other comp. I know you have to reset the modem. But could be a workaround to change ip without physicall access to modem/router? Would be neat..... | It's very easy to do this remotely, from within your house. Although; to be able to do this from outside your home, you would only be able to do it once. You would need to setup a VNC type application on each end, and then access your internal network that way. The problem with this is that as soon as you reset the modem, you will lose the connection to your network, and you would have no idea what the new IP address is, so that you could log back into the VNC application. |
| jonaam | 01-18-2010 08:49 PM | IP Chicken Website and IP Addresses So, I used this website a couple times yesterday and today and the IP Address it gave me was different both days.
Is this website actually giving me a secret IP Address that Ebay would actually track that I wouldn't know they are tracking?
Also, this IP Address is a different # than my Wireless Network Connection IP Address, why are they different? |
| Cachufleta | 01-19-2010 11:39 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by SevnSins
(Post 120358)
It's very easy to do this remotely, from within your house. Although; to be able to do this from outside your home, you would only be able to do it once. You would need to setup a VNC type application on each end, and then access your internal network that way. The problem with this is that as soon as you reset the modem, you will lose the connection to your network, and you would have no idea what the new IP address is, so that you could log back into the VNC application. | Why would you need VNC?
You can control the router via http
However in some point, following powder's guide, you will have to unplug the modem, needing physicall access to the place.
ANYONE FOUND A WAY TO CHANGE IPs ON A REMOTE COMPUTER ? |
| bigmac | 01-19-2010 03:52 PM | will ebay track that or is that good enough Quote:
Originally Posted by SevnSins
(Post 120357)
If they are all hooked up to the same modem at the same time, the WAN IP addresses will be the same. Although; if you connect 1 router to the modem at a time, you will have a unique IP for each router.
Example: - Router #1: 192.168.1.2
- Router #2: 192.168.1.4
- Router #3: 192.168.1.6
- Router #4: 192.168.1.8
| |
| cinnamonuk1971 | 02-05-2010 11:47 AM | Hi,
I do everything you say and change the mac address, but then i have no internet access afterwards and my router home page is not showing wan ip, default gateway etc with my new manually adjusted mac address. It is a "myessentials" (belkin) router... Help!:confused: |
| SevnSins | 02-05-2010 12:01 PM | I had the same issue with my Belkin. I just unplugged it, and tried a different MAC address. Be sure to keep a log of the MACs you use, so you'll know which ones don't work. |
| SevnSins | 02-05-2010 12:11 PM | In my experience; not all routers allow http access, and can also be unsafe leaving access open to the world. If you use that method, make sure you have a good password.
Changing the IP on a remote computer has been discussed already. The problem is that you won't know the new IP when you need to access the machine later. Even if you use the HTTP router access, you still need an IP address.
The only thing I can think of is 2 internet connections to the remote network. One that never changes IP, so you can get access to the one you do want to reset/change.
If anyone has any better ideas, I'd be interested in hearing some myself. Quote:
Originally Posted by Cachufleta
(Post 120577)
Why would you need VNC?
You can control the router via http
However in some point, following powder's guide, you will have to unplug the modem, needing physicall access to the place.
ANYONE FOUND A WAY TO CHANGE IPs ON A REMOTE COMPUTER ? | |
| cinnamonuk1971 | 02-05-2010 01:53 PM | i have tried many, but none work... any ones i can use that you know of sevensins? |
| cinnamonuk1971 | 02-06-2010 07:38 AM | If i get some cheap dial up service like cooper.net, will that ultimately resolve any issues re:new ip address as each time i dial up i get a new address? |
| ThinkTank | 02-10-2010 01:33 AM | Just curious as I haven't seen anybody else mention this. If you are either paranoid of doing it wrong or your not tech savy couldn't you always just take your cable modem to your cable provider and ask for a new cable modem, come home, plug the new modem into your router and get a new IP address that way? That seems to be a really easy way for anyone not very tech savy. |
| Penya | 02-25-2010 07:22 PM | I've just moved from cabled area to non-cable and will have to use ADSL. With my cable router it was so easy to change to IP's I needed but what about ADSL router? Can I change IP same way by changing MAC? |
| earsh | 03-02-2010 10:46 AM | |
| Sandy D | 03-11-2010 09:43 PM | I have tried this with my router and modem and it will not work.
Must be that roadrunner will not allow this to happen.
Anyone else ever get this to work with roadrunner high speed? |
| philly387 | 03-11-2010 10:08 PM | Might have a static ip address not a dynamic. Call your ISP and ask. |
| razvan4NBA | 06-12-2010 07:31 PM | 1 Attachment(s) the thing is that i do not have an assigned mac??.. at least is dynamic ...what should i put in those blank spaces ? |
| Vicvelcro | 06-13-2010 04:16 AM | Well, you do have a MAC address for the device. Those blank spaces mean you aren't already spoofing a MAC and therefore your router is using the factory assigned MAC. Look on the bottom or the back of the router for a sticker with your unit serial number and MAC. Then, put the first 3 pairs in the appropriate blanks. Change any of the digits in the last 3 pairs (change the last one, or the last pair or whatever) and type that in the last 3 blanks. Then save the changes. You may have to reboot your modem and router. You may not. |
| Trimptop | 06-14-2010 05:48 AM | I have a static IP address, how do I change it? I have no clue what to do? Thanks |
| Vicvelcro | 06-14-2010 05:50 AM | If your IP address is static, there is nothing you can do except get a new service provider. |
| LieberMensch | 06-17-2010 09:48 AM | yep u need dynamic ip internetprovider | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:27 PM. | |
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