PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP

[ytl]

I haven't tried this yet, but its an idea, takes a bit more work, its kind of a developers solution, but whatever

Say you want to run two accounts,
Get two seperate web hosting packages, standard web ones, preferably with mysql. Get em in August, they have cool deals, I've got one that costs £1 for the first year and you can register 10 domains with it. That was of course, in August. (after that 17.50 a month, but i'll be using it for multiple income purposes). K so locate 2 good deals, seperate servers. Then sign up for two seprate ebay developer accounts, from different comps and internet connections. Then use the developer API, and PHP programming, to create an api-xml request forwarder, and platform notifications reciever, have both of these feed into a seperate mysql database, doesnt matter where that is hosted. Create a GUI customised to your needs, however you like, php, java, c#, whatever, doesnt even matter where its hosted, that feeds into the mysql database. So essentially you have this kind of layer in the middle sort of operation

...............................ebae :P
................................./
..............................API
............................../
......................Server 1 (IP 1)
.........................../
GUI -> mysql db <->
..........................\
......................Server 2(IP 2)
............................\
...........................API
..............................\
............................ebae


Thus if for some reason, the server 1 account is suspended, well you've got server 2 to work on, you can close that webhosting account open a new one, a new developer id (in someone elses name of course), new ebay account (in someone else name of course), and youve got one to work from while you get the other going.

Whats more you can use the webhosting for online stores, and integrate and synchronise the mysql database into them. Be aware, that one developer account, uncertified, has a maximum of 5000 api calls per day, an example of an API call would be to list an item (actually listing items are free from the quota), but also to check questions, to leave feedback, to check your account. anything action that youd take on ebay would constitute on call. For most people that should be enough, what what.

Now please do feel free to take the entire idea apart, and tell me how it might have problems.

By the by, i think it would be illegal for me to develop this, and then sell it without being certified (can only use uncertified ebay dev account for personal use and development, if you make it public and sell it, its got to be certified, which means you send it to ebay and they check it over, mainly to see that your not wasting API calls).

On the other hand, maybe it would get certified!

[Jonas]

ytl that's pretty complicated.

[Slavaja]

hey i just wanna know if proxies are really safe because what if someone use a proxy example 125.232.321.11 port 8080 and it got blacklisted by ebay and then you use that proxy server for ebay. i would be get banned right or the chances of that happening is low?

[josipk]

hi slavaja.

wher in melbourne are you.

I'm from Richmond and I have same problems with ebay accounts.

Maybe we could get together and talk about our problems and share info.

Let me know what you think.

Looking forward to your reply.

[winterson]

Use the VPN to avoid this type of problems. Proxies are not a good idea. Use the VPN for dynamic IPs.

[ebayhateluv]

Yes, in the USA, The couple of Proxies I have experimented with--heres what happened:
a.) Ebay either wouldnt load or run--would not allow pics, etc. stalled
b.) ebay ended up suspending the accts for "Abusing"

This is just my experience.. I have tried Several.

[Slavaja]

Originally Posted by winterson

Use the VPN to avoid this type of problems. Proxies are not a good idea. Use the VPN for dynamic IPs.

how do you use a VPN?

[ebayhateluv]

SLAVAJA-- If you click on a Members name-- it will give you a drop down box--
See it? It's Blue.. then arrow down-- you can send a member a Private message ...
I apoligize if you already know that??
(Just thought you were trying to communicate directly with the Gentleman from Melbourne)-
BTW- my very BEST Customers, ( Out of the USA)customers are from Australia-- I have NEVER had a scam, a chargeback or a neg or neutral from there.. )

[californiadreamer]

so on vpn they cannot see your ip correct because its like a tunnel?? Am I understanding correctly??

[bigrab54]

Hi just wondering if by using a proxy works for hiding from ebay or would ebay know something is up and suspend you.

[ebayhateluv]

Hi, Bigrab54:
Seems the other members have reported in General, that Ebay does NOT like
Proxies...
Theres several threads on this, and my last reading was from Modee, where he and Chris Hanson was testing one..
--According to Modee, it had to pass 3 out of 3 tests, and it did not.. you can find that thread under proxies, or under Modee posts..

[ebayhateluv]

HI, Bigrab:
Heres the Topic/Posts:
http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...html#post13331

[bigrab54]

Thanks a lot for the info guys

[Chris Hanson]

I wouldnt use proxies.. Makes you look real badd

[bigrab54]

I dont know if this will work but here goes. If i manually put in a proxy and it always pin points me to the same location in the us when im from uk would i then be able to open a ebay account from the uk and and sell on this account in the us.

Surely if i use the same ip every time i log into my different accounts they wouldnt be able to suspend or trace me would they?. You wouldnt get banned if you created a account and logged in as the same ip if you had'nt been suspended before.

[aspkin]

Same ip with your accounts? That'll most likely link you accounts.

Random proxies aren't the best solution either. EBay and Paypal have been know to limit accounts just because people login with a proxy. If anything, use AOL proxy. It's much safer.

[bigrab54]

Originally Posted by aspkin

Same ip with your accounts? That'll most likely link you accounts.

Random proxies aren't the best solution either. EBay and Paypal have been know to limit accounts just because people login with a proxy. If anything, use AOL proxy. It's much safer.

yeah same ip with every different account. so every account has its own unique ip. how would ebay be able to link these accounts as long as i cleared my cookie trail?

[Itzabreeze]

So if free Proxy's do not work, can you "buy them"?. Do they work?

[mantisinc]

Okay, so it's a good idea to stick to 1 IP address per account, for when creating the account, editing details, etc.

How about if I was to create a secure proxy (with an ssl), keep it for personal use, and use it everytime I logged into that ebay account? I already run a few proxy sites, but if I was to hook up an SSL to them, then I could access ebay.

Obviously going to an internet cafe/library sorts the IP problem, but it means that everytime you want to access the account, or change settings on the account, you will need to do it from the same IP to be on the safe side. Would I be right in saying this?

So I thought if I were to create myself a secure proxy site, I could just login to ebay via that proxy on this PC, obviously after clearing all cookies. Then on that note, host other proxy sites on different IP's for each account I created/accessed?

[Itzabreeze]

So I have Hide-My-IP.Com - Hide Your IP Address, Surf Anonymously, Protect Your Identify, Guard Against Hackers and when I check the ip infomation on http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm it shows all of my "real infomation" so this software obviously does not work. And someone mentioned that Proxify does not work.

So which service would be mask my ip? Anyone?

[Ballsack]

You're going to get your accounts suspended by using a proxy service.

[belerim]

In my opinion using a proxy shouldn't be a problem - Almost all of the companies, internet cafes, libraries...etc are using proxy servers (their proxy server - not a public ones)
The problem is choosing the right proxy !
A proxy could be transparent (shows the original IP address and it is used just for changing the route) or non-transparent (hides the IP address)
Could be a public or private proxy.
Most likely the public proxies are used by hackers, Ebay-haters like you and so on - Once some illegal activities were detected on a proxy server the IP address is blacklisted.
Just to make it clear: The proxy server still works OK for internet browsing but it will raise a flag at Ebay when you're trying to get in.
So if you are using a public proxy chances are that someone else used it before for some nasty things and it's already blacklisted on Ebay.
I don't think there is any way to know if a proxy was compromised or not, that's why the results on testing them will vary from case to case.