MY UK MP Stealth + Real experience verifying ID checks

[dune]

So let's forget Trustly (log-in in your bank with eBay), I think the other 2 ways to link the bank payment (manualy enter IBAN or 2 deposits) will leak less info. Am i right?

[rogerdodger]

Originally Posted by aorcat

So let's forget Trustly (log-in in your bank with eBay), I think the other 2 ways to link the bank payment (manualy enter IBAN or 2 deposits) will leak less info. Am i right?

Possibly, not sure? I do have 1 biz account with full MP by adding manually.

It's scary going with Trustly with all that information they harvest! plenty of people here have gone down that route but probably didn't read the full T&C's beforehand? if they had I'm wondering why they went ahead?

[james_112233]

Originally Posted by cpm

I can't believe you guys, hankering head over heels for these verification checks. Forget it people. Bay/pp are not worth it. They certainly have no authority to collect peoples' ID. In fact it is illegal and their T&C that they dish out is a means to coerce you. If these companies had a viable business they wouldn't need to verify your ID, much less put the onus on you to prove to them who you are. This is the ultimate entitlement insult to users.

What the hell are you on about ?

Do you really think people will just abandon their businesses that have been making them money for years via stealth methods ? Everyone will find a way one way or another.

[Eribala]

Hey mate. I have stealth accounts and what you suggest to do??? To change info to pass it, there is no other way?

Regards

[ajaxrouge]

Thanks DenJosh99. This is very helpful mate.

Quick q to all those way more experienced than me...

I've got a personal ebay account that I converted to business in my own name - all legit info. I also made a business account which got banned MC113 in the first week (I think I was too active immediately). Still not using MP but deadline is 7 June.

This business ebay account had a bank account linked to a real limited company that I am trying to use for my eBay but I am afraid to use the same bank account for my converted still standing ebay account. I think they might link the two and ban me permanently... not using any stealth tactics atm.

So my thought so far is the solution is to create a new business bank account and link that to access MP however the problem is , it will have a bank acc name the same as one bank acc linked to a banned ebay account. Is this a problem? Or should I just put my real actual name in there (which will still be linked to the bank account) with the right bank details and assume they go through?

Thanks

[lally6677]

Originally Posted by aorcat

Address would not match with what?
I think that address doesn't necessary have to match, it is not something to be concerned about. You could be living/ selling in different addresses and they could be different than the one on your electoral roll or bank.

An address won't match his credit profile.

Name, Address, DOB, is how to match a credit profile.

Yes Address is important.

[dune]

Originally Posted by lally6677

An address won't match his credit profile.

Name, Address, DOB, is how to match a credit profile.

Yes Address is important.

Ok, is Adyen or eBay doing the credit check?

Where do they look?, in my bank address?,

Or is the address in the electoral roll?

Or the one in the ID card/ passport/ driving license?

Let me know so I change them in a monthly basis, it wouldn't be a problem ...

[ak_am]

Originally Posted by cpm

I can't believe you guys, hankering head over heels for these verification checks. Forget it people. Bay/pp are not worth it. They certainly have no authority to collect peoples' ID. In fact it is illegal and their T&C that they dish out is a means to coerce you. If these companies had a viable business they wouldn't need to verify your ID, much less put the onus on you to prove to them who you are. This is the ultimate entitlement insult to users.

👌👌👌
Schpock or Schpock, or whatever - good enough for UK. Simple. Straight forward. Got it's iwn secure payment system for both buyer's n sellers. F*ck eBay. Got enough now.
i love n' it 💯😍

[ak_am]

Originally Posted by ak_am

👌👌👌
Schpock or Schpock, or whatever - good enough for UK. Simple. Straight forward. Got it's iwn secure payment system for both buyer's n sellers. F*ck eBay. Got enough now.
i love n' it 💯😍

Also Carboot sales is UP n Running, since fat cats made a profits on u 😻

[DENDEN76]

What's your sales like on shpock? It annoys me they don't have a bulk listing feature.

[paulfoltyn]

Originally Posted by aorcat

"and came back saying of course it does not match the bank name and billing addresses"

For this sentence could we conclude that eBay can see your real (billing) address on the bank account (I am not talking about credit card) or can get it from 3rd parties?

100% guarantee no company ebay or otherwise can get your address or confirm it by bank account details, other than said bank. The soft search is where they confirm name, dob and address match.

[paulfoltyn]

Originally Posted by aorcat

Ok, is Adyen or eBay doing the credit check?

Where do they look?, in my bank address?,

Or is the address in the electoral roll?

Or the one in the ID card/ passport/ driving license?

Let me know so I change them in a monthly basis, it wouldn't be a problem ...

They look at the details you give them so so ifyou tell them your name is aro cat, 16 cat street yo65 5re 11/1/1969 they'll run a credit check to see if those details match those details

[dune]

Originally Posted by paulfoltyn

They look at the details you give them so so ifyou tell them your name is aro cat, 16 cat street yo65 5re 11/1/1969 they'll run a credit check to see if those details match those details

Ok, so you say that the ID check includes your address.

And that the address check is not done with the one on n the bank

So where do they check/ have your address?

Which address should I give to eBay so don't have to upload my ID card?

The one from the electoral roll?

Because I don't live there anymore

I don't think adress is that important ...

[paulfoltyn]

Originally Posted by aorcat

Ok, so you say that the ID check includes your address.

And that the address check is not done with the one on n the bank

So where do they check/ have your address?

Which address should I give to eBay so don't have to upload my ID card?

The one from the electoral roll?

Because I don't live there anymore

I don't think adress is that important ...

No company can check your address via sort code and account number. And a soft search on credit report won't confirm bank details either. Hard search would. They run a soft search on your credit and every address you've have a financial connection to over at least the last 20 years will confirm your existance. So if you had banks accounts registered at your previous address soft search will ID you .. but ebay won't be able to see your bank details but will be able to see it you have an account with XXXX bank. Just that you are a real person and some credit indicators

[dune]

Originally Posted by paulfoltyn

No company can check your address via sort code and account number. And a soft search on credit report won't confirm bank details either. Hard search would. They run a soft search on your credit and every address you've have a financial connection to over at least the last 20 years will confirm your existance. So if you had banks accounts registered at your previous address soft search will ID you .. but ebay won't be able to see your bank details but will be able to see it you have an account with XXXX bank. Just that you are a real person and some credit indicators

Amazin!. Are you sure?, and can eBay view those addresses?

[Felics]

This all sounds a bit long winded.

Does anyone have any good reccomendations on where I can get "creative" IDs from?

I'm trying to upload some documents but obviously dont want my details. I have some legit details, age and address but am not good to creatively change these documents to get them to pass ebays checks.

Can anyone point me to someone who can help?