eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?

[james_112233]

Originally Posted by jamsandwich

Apologies if I have missed something in this thread, but how is signing up to eBay managed payments any more of a hurdle than opening a stealth Paypal account and getting verified using 'creative' documents? Is it the unknown eBay/Adyen checks that people are concerned about?

That's it really.

Nobody knows if they are like Paypal or not.

And other than having to use your real name due to your bank account being linked everything else can be different in which case we can still stealth.

But we have to wait and see. I personally think ebay have shot themselves in the foot if Adyen run stringent checks.

So many legitimate stealth retailers on ebay in every category. Every shop loves spreading sales across multiple accounts. It allows sellers to get a good nights sleep as well to be honest. If one account goes down you know your business can still function while you get that account back up and running.

[arshavin]

Maybe this is wishful thinking, but what if this is just to stop people dodging fees.

This way they have a handle on the money ins an outs more with payments being sent every 2 days.

And they will still allow us to sorta stealth, just not hardcore dodging fees stealth.

[Pathos]

Originally Posted by jamsandwich

I see, thanks. Well I suspect someone will find out (and hopefully report it here) sooner rather than later.

Have you tried it?

[Pathos]

Originally Posted by arshavin

Maybe this is wishful thinking, but what if this is just to stop people dodging fees.

This way they have a handle on the money ins an outs more with payments being sent every 2 days.

And they will still allow us to sorta stealth, just not hardcore dodging fees stealth.

It will have a small element to the entire marketing plan and design of MP yes, but its a bitpart.

[jamsandwich]

Originally Posted by james_112233

That's it really.

Nobody knows if they are like Paypal or not.

And other than having to use your real name due to your bank account being linked everything else can be different in which case we can still stealth.

But we have to wait and see. I personally think ebay have shot themselves in the foot if Adyen run stringent checks.

So many legitimate stealth retailers on ebay in every category. Every shop loves spreading sales across multiple accounts. It allows sellers to get a good nights sleep as well to be honest. If one account goes down you know your business can still function while you get that account back up and running.

Hmm, I am using 'creative' documents and ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name on my stealth PP accounts, and have my own name on the bank and VCC I have linked to the PP account without any issues.

[jamsandwich]

Originally Posted by Pathos

Have you tried it?

I've not, no.

[Pathos]

Originally Posted by jamsandwich

I've not, no.

Try it then?

[paul0428]

For the Uk every one that is not a big seler it will steel use paypal for years to come it will not be this or next year 100% USA is difrent but in the UK no one send any informations to IRS tax or something like that so UK seller are safe for now.

[Freakzilla]

Please enlighten us on your source for this information.

Originally Posted by paul0428

For the Uk every one that is not a big seler it will steel use paypal for years to come it will not be this or next year 100% USA is difrent but in the UK no one send any informations to IRS tax or something like that so UK seller are safe for now.

[arshavin]

Originally Posted by paul0428

For the Uk every one that is not a big seler it will steel use paypal for years to come it will not be this or next year 100% USA is difrent but in the UK no one send any informations to IRS tax or something like that so UK seller are safe for now.

I don't mean to be rude but I think you are just making stuff up here.

[paul0428]

No you are not let said for the last 5 yers i have more then 500 ebay and paypall account not all are my account when they are register in the Uk i never ever have a problem no Irs no tax problem on each account when they get big daylly sells more then 1000 paund each day some account hold fer up to 2 years so see how much moeny go tru each of them when i open in Gurmanny for esample in usa it is difrent UK was the best place to open ebay and paypal even the paypall is instant wildraw but after septemver 1 2019 Ebay change some thing in theare software i cant tell what it is more hard to get a new stelt account it is just need more time for exsamply if you need to open 20 today before you can do it one by one now if you wonna be safe i mean really safe just do it every 2-3 hours betwin them and you are fine.Everything that i said is 100% true i dont ask moeny from no one si before you critisaid some one just try to do it it is easy to do that then spend a few years to faind how ebay and paypal work.

[paul0428]

And sorry for my english it is not purfect i stell lurning.

[Bigblackdog]

Originally Posted by paul0428

For the Uk every one that is not a big seler it will steel use paypal for years to come it will not be this or next year 100% USA is difrent but in the UK no one send any informations to IRS tax or something like that so UK seller are safe for now.

Oh please - it's happening. Accept it and be ready for it because it wont go away and imagining it will isn;t going to change anything

[paul0428]

Yes you are right but it will not happen in uk account for the next 2 years only for the big store will happen soon and there is a way to do it even with the new sestem it is not so hard trust me.

[arshavin]

Originally Posted by paul0428

Yes you are right but it will not happen in uk account for the next 2 years only for the big store will happen soon and there is a way to do it even with the new sestem it is not so hard trust me.

Where is the proof?

[james_112233]

It's happening because ebay want more buyers on the platform and managed payments will allow that to happen.

They are becoming like Amazon.

[JamesNorth101]

Originally Posted by james_112233

It's happening because ebay want more buyers on the platform and managed payments will allow that to happen.

They are becoming like Amazon.

Its happening because they want to control the ££ and not get left high and dry by people owing fees. Its nothing to do with buyer or seller experience its to stop people running off while owing lots of ££

[arshavin]

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

Its happening because they want to control the ££ and not get left high and dry by people owing fees. Its nothing to do with buyer or seller experience its to stop people running off while owing lots of ££

This crossed my mind the other day. I think this is possible.

If that is the case I feel like it's possible we will be able to run multiple accounts as long as we run them the right way.

[james_112233]

Originally Posted by tinsoldier

How will managed payments attract buyers???

More payment options and no need to sign up. Checkout as guest.

In regards to fees. I've never not paid my fees so don't really know how many stealthers are not paying them.

Ebay run £1 final value fee promotions on both private and now business accounts practically every other week now anyway so I can't see them losing a lot in fees. They just want to keep increasing the amount of buyers on their platform and offer them a no quibble money back guarantee just like amazon.

[Pathos]

Originally Posted by james_112233

More payment options and no need to sign up. Checkout as guest.

In regards to fees. I've never not paid my fees so don't really know how many stealthers are not paying them.

Ebay run £1 final value fee promotions on both private and now business accounts practically every other week now anyway so I can't see them losing a lot in fees. They just want to keep increasing the amount of buyers on their platform and offer them a no quibble money back guarantee just like amazon.

The checkout as a guest option is going to bring in a swarm of scammers thats for sure. I know you can 'essentially' checkout as a guest now, but its a little more complicated than I think it will be when MP is in full force.

[james_112233]

Originally Posted by tinsoldier

It will be exactly the same as it is now, MP has absolutely nothing to do with buyer payments, I can't understand why some of you seem to think it will.

I can't see it being the same.

The fact ebay manage sellers funds and hold on to it. They will relax buyer requirements because if they somehow turn out to be a scammer it's the seller that loses his funds, not ebay as they're holding the money.

No more stealthers running away with their fees
No more ebay dipping in to their own pockets to pay out disputes etc
More buyers on the platform

[Pathos]

Originally Posted by james_112233

I can't see it being the same.

The fact ebay manage sellers funds and hold on to it. They will relax buyer requirements because if they somehow turn out to be a scammer it's the seller that loses his funds, not ebay as they're holding the money.

No more stealthers running away with their fees
No more ebay dipping in to their own pockets to pay out disputes etc
More buyers on the platform

Yes I agree, the 'freedom' of guest purchasing through the likes of Apple pay with Click and Collect deliveries , combined with eBays pretty much control over the sales money etc is going to be a scammers paradise.